Politics These tariffs are the biggest pain in my ass

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  1. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    As long as anti-Americans like @SlyPokerDog freely choose to unfairly profit from the deaths and suffering of slaves it will indeed be difficult for decent people who oppose slavery to keep profiteers from exploiting them.

    Trump's policies encouraging/forcing companies such as Mook's and Nike and Amazon and Google and Apple and Microsoft and WalMart... to stop supporting today's China slavery market which is on a scale larger than all previous slavery in the history of the world combined is the most moral move any US President has ever taken against slavery.

    To oppose it is morally vile and indefensible by any humane standard.

    Many products have always been Made in America, or in many of the other approximately 150+ countries that do not keep slaves, and more are coming back every day thanks to POTUS Trump. The American entrepreneurs are being unleashed from regressive regs, jobs are reappearing and Americans are re-investing in their own country again, withdrawing the left's financial support for slavery around the world.

    Slavery today:
    https://borgenproject.org/countries-that-still-have-slavery/
     
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  2. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Someone hit the record player, it's repeating.
     
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    That is fucking bullshit. Attacking an American citizen and claiming they are anti American is taken right out of the loser trumps play book. Do people really like you or are you to big of a coward to say these things to in real life or do you just do this hiding behind a phony moniker in an anonymous forum? You are a coward that hides behind the ugliness of trump.

    DON'T FUCKING EDIT MY POST WHEN YOU HAVE A GUY LIKE MARIS MAKING PERSONAL ATTACKS CALLING A POSTER AN ANTI AMERICAN. DELETE HIS BULLSHIT. :bgrin::bgrin::bgrin::bgrin:
     
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    Good points. The company I retired from had several plants in China and still do. Cost of Mfg wasn't the only incentive, location to serve the Asian market is also. China sets all the regulations and in some cases only allow joint ventures with them, a way for them to acquire certain technologies for copying.
    China isn't the only country in that region that entices manufacturing at a low cost. So there are options that could be even better than China.
    It has gotten to the point with my old company by the time you pay the freight and cost for logistics here its close to a push versus building here.
    Rather than the USA simply being an information State, If we can build up industrial manufacturing here also and treat manufacturers as positive important parts of the American economy, its going to excite the field of more opportunity and progress.
    I remember attending a Kubota distributors meeting 30 years ago and the Kubota executive addressing the group commented that it was not in the master plan to move manufacturing from Mother Japan to the USA but it was going to happen as the playing filed was leveled. They no longer could sell a Lexis at a Chevy price because of the yen/dollar ratio.
    So having level playing fields does help in the long run but you are so right in that most Americans are used to instant gratification.
     
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    This is one of the worst personal insults you've ever posted....you should get banned for it.
     
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  6. MARIS61

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    Please explain how this is an insult?

    There is no disputing that it is simply a fact. He freely admits he uses China's slave-labor market to produce his products cheaper for the singular purpose of profiting personally, and this profit is derived from their suffering and deaths.

    Pointing out hypocrisy and naming the world's slave-owners and those who enable them is hardly a personal insult.
     
  7. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You cannot call someone anti-American for that. I buy Chinese produced products as well.
     
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    But Cup’s response was over the line as well.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    you're now calling the dates you buy while visiting Vietnam "products"?
     
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    Don;t you have a sailboat you need to go park in the mud again? :biglaugh:
     
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  12. MarAzul

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    Baloney! I do not know why it was even edited.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm guessing because it's pretty pompous for Maris to talk shit about people buying stuff sold by the poster, that are made in China...while he's typing on a computer that was made in China (or at best, had parts that were made in China/etc, and put together in the US).
     
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    I am ready for that to end as soon as possible. The keyboard, I have right now, is overloading the USB hub far too often for a reliable Navigation computer. Once we could buy a good KB made in the US, and other computer parts. Damn hard to find now.
    I am completely happy with the idea of fixing the trade with China, even if it mean stopping imports from China to get there.

    Quite frankly, what is holding China up in making a fair agreement? Nothing but the fact that they expect the wimps in the US to force Trump to allow them to continue the rip off.
    That would be a terrible outcome.
    Go Trump!!!
     
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    I’ve never been to Vietnam but I guess so?
     
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    Once Computers were made in the US. Should we wait until 797 Aircraft are made in China, before we are concerned with fair trade of Quality products?
    Early in this thread, I ask @mook, Why? I response to his assertion, manufacturing in the US is not an option.
    No answer and that is what this battle is all about. It must be fought before we have lost and there is no way to object.
     
  17. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You do realize he's in England, right? They're like 7 hours difference. Maybe he's working (it's Monday there), or maybe he's busy stressing.
     
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    Is this the screenplay for, "Grumpy Old Men Part 3?" :biglaugh:

    Too bad Jack Lemmon and Walter Matthau passed away several years ago. Only they could make a movie out of it.
     
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    Perhaps you are correct.
    But the reasons for Trump taking on China are clear, regardless of what he might answer. Which by the way, I assume to be, It cost too much to manufacture in the US.
    The list of why this is, is quite long. It still will need to be address even after the question of, Too much, compared to what? Is answered when we do indeed have a fair trade agreement.
     
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    He deserved it by attacking mook and calling him anti American. I am anti maris and trump humpers. I want my kids and grandkids to grow up in a country they are proud of and that's not a country with trump
     

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