Politics Another day and yet another trump scandal

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  1. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Hot Pockets.

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  2. CupWizier

    CupWizier Well-Known Member

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    Minimum is pretty accurate. Not much substance in your posts. Not really even troll worthy.:biglaugh:
     
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    She talks and looks like the girl who dumped you back in the day..? Riverman life coaching university bro...I'll give you the S2 discount rate...
     
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    You phony fucker! The top of your game was to leave with hottest. You always won when last to leave at closing time.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Mike Pence is a worse evil. Speaking as someone from Indiana.

    Tread carefully, Nancy.

    Also, the Senate will be deciding 45's fate, majority still in GOP's hands.
     
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  7. MARIS61

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    WH to release document showing intel community watchdog found whistleblower had 'political bias,' official says

    By Gregg Re, John Roberts, Ed Henry | Fox News

    Intelligence community inspector general alleges whistleblower had 'political bias' against Trump

    A senior Trump administration official told Fox News late Tuesday that the administration will release a document showing the intelligence community inspector general found the whistleblower who leveled an
    explosive accusation against President Trump concerning his talks with Ukraine had “political bias” in favor of “a rival candidate” of the president.

    The official did not identify the name of the rival candidate. Separately, a senior administration official told Fox News the White House has been working as quickly as it can to release to Congress the whistleblower complaint involving President Trump's conversations with the leader of Ukraine, as long as it's legally possible.

    The senior administration official told Fox News that the White House had nothing to hide, that there has been no wrongdoing, and that the White House's general position has been that it will make everything possible available to Congress or the public regarding Trump's conversations with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky and the complaint to the intelligence community's inspector general.

    A source familiar with the matter told Fox News this week that the whistleblower had no firsthand knowledge of Trump's July call with Zelensky. Trump vowed earlier Tuesday to release a "complete" transcript of the call by Wednesday.

    A senior administration official told Fox News there are a “few words” in the transcript that will raise eyebrows, but it is nowhere near as inflammatory as Democrats have suggested.

    The contents of the call, as well as the whistleblower complaint, could throw cold water on Democrats' explosive suggestions that the president improperly threatened to withhold aid to Ukraine unless it investigated Joe Biden and his son Hunter. Republicans had predicted over the weekend that such an impeachment inquiry could backfire on Pelosi, and administration officials have said Trump was concerned only with broader corruption in Ukraine.

    Joe Biden has acknowledged on camera that, when he was vice president, he successfully pressured Ukraine to fire its top prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, while Shokin was investigating the natural gas firm Burisma Holdings — where Hunter Biden was on the board.

    The House speaker specifically charged that the administration had violated the law by failing to turn over the whistleblower complaint. Citing testimony that the director of national intelligence was blocking the release of that complaint, she said: "This is a violation of law. The law is unequivocal."

    Fox News also was told the White House has taken steps to alleviate concerns about the precedential nature of releasing a transcript of the phone call with Zelensky. With the release of the transcript, the White House has put in place protections to preserve the confidential nature of conversations between the president and world leaders.

    And, The New York Times reported that the White House had dropped its objection to the whistleblower speaking to Congress. That came after the GOP-controlled Senate passed a unanimous resolution seeking access to the whistleblower's complaint.

    DNI Inspector General Michael Atkinson said in a Sep. 9 letter to the House Intelligence Committee that the whistleblower complaint "appeared credible" and related to an "urgent" matter. But the DNI general counsel said days later that, after consulting with the DOJ, the matter did not meet the legal definition of an “urgent concern," and was not subject to mandatory disclosure to Congress.

    US Representative Jerrold Nadler (D-NY), Chairman of the House Judiciary Committee, and US Representative Adam Schiff (D-CA), Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, will lead the review -- with Schiff in charge. (Photo by SAUL LOEB / AFP) (Photo credit should read SAUL LOEB/AFP/Getty Images)

    “Furthermore, because the complaint involves confidential and potentially privileged communications by persons outside the Intelligence Community, the DNI lacks unilateral authority to transmit such materials to the intelligence committees,” Jason Klitenic, the DNI general counsel, wrote.

    Acting Director of National Intelligence Joseph Maguire will testify before the House Intelligence Committee at an open hearing on Thursday.

    Republicans said the move would prove to be a major political mistake.

    "It is a colossal error," Texas Republican Sen. John Cornyn told Fox News just prior to Pelosi's comments. "And, I’m kind of surprised that Speaker Pelosi, as shrewd as she is, would let it get to this point."

    Swing district Rep. Mikie Sherrill, D-N.J., acknowledged to Fox News that supporting the impeachment inquiry "could" affect her electorally, but she maintained that Trump voters in her district "understand," and that Trump crossed a red line.

    Trump, for his part, ripped into Democrats in a series of tweets immediately after Pelosi's comments, writing that "PRESIDENTIAL HARASSMENT" was in progress again.

    In remarks to reporters at the United Nations on Monday, Trump denied linking the aid money to Ukraine's investigative actions. “No, I didn’t — I didn’t do it,” Trump said. But, he also repeatedly called the Bidens' actions in Ukraine a "disgrace," acknowledged that Biden had come up during the call and added: "It's very important to talk about corruption. ... Why would you give money to a country that you think is corrupt?"

    House Oversight Committee Ranking Member Jim Jordan, R-Ohio, called Democrats' efforts predictable and destructive in his own fiery statement.

    "Democrats have been trying to impeach the President since the beginning of this Congress," Jordan said. "Michael Cohen's testimony was a bust. John Dean's testimony was a waste of time. The Mueller report did not live up to the hype.

    "Speaker Pelosi's decision to pursue impeachment now - on the basis of unsubstantiated, indirect, and anonymous allegations - only shows that the Speaker has finally succumbed to unrelenting pressure from the socialist wing of the Democrat Party," Jordan added. "This was never about Russian collusion or Ukrainian prosecutions. It is all about undoing the 2016 election and the will of the American people."

    Trump is set to meet with Zelensky in New York on Wednesday. The visit was previously scheduled, unrelated to the whistleblower allegation, although the two leaders are expected to face questions about the matter from reporters.

    A total of 172 House Dblicemocrats have now signaled strong support for an impeachment inquiry -- 235 Democrats and 198 Repuans are in the House, with one pro-impeachment independent. A successful majority would be required to impeach the president. A highly unlikely two-thirds vote in the GOP-controlled Senate would be needed to convict and remove the president.

    Vice President Mike Pence would then take office in that scenario.

    "The ironic thing is is that everything that our critics in the media are leveling at the president from this phone call, and leveling at our administration, everything that Democrats on Capitol Hill are running off and describing -- Vice President Joe Biden bragged about -- which was a quid-pro-quo -- withholding American aid in exchange for a specific action," Pence told Fox News' "Hannity" on Monday.
     
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    GOP rep introduces resolution to remove Nadler as Judiciary panel chairman over impeachment probe
    By Tyler Olson | Fox News

    A Republican congressman introduced a resolution on Tuesday calling for the ouster of House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerrold Nadler, D-N.Y., from his panel post for pursuing impeachment proceedings against President Trump.

    The proceedings were formally backed late Tuesday by House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, D-Calif.

    Lance Gooden, R-Texas, said in a release that Nadler has acted against the will of the House of Representatives, which never gave his committee explicit authorization to begin impeachment proceedings. The body voted 332-95 in July to table an impeachment resolution from Rep. Al Green, D-Texas.

    "This attempted coup against a duly elected, sitting president is unprecedented and must be stopped," Gooden said. "I urge the majority to move immediately to have him stripped of his chairmanship and that any accomplices on the Judiciary Committee not be considered as a replacement."

    Nadler and fellow Democrats on the House Judiciary Committee have been investigating Trump as part of what they've called impeachment proceedings. Notably, Nadler hauled Trump's former 2016 campaign manager, Cory Lewandowski, in front of his committee last week for a combative five hours of testimony related to possible impeachable behavior by the president.

    Pelosi announced that multiple House committees are now moving forward with an impeachment inquiry, responding in large part to allegations that Trump recently pressured Ukraine's president to investigate the Biden family.

    "The actions of the Trump presidency revealed the dishonorable fact of the president's betrayal of his oath of office, betrayal of our national security, and betrayal of the integrity of our elections," Pelosi said on Capitol Hill. "Therefore, today I am announcing that the House of Representatives is moving forward with an official impeachment inquiry."

    Gooden said Nadler is the one defying the law.

    "In recent days, Democrats have sanctimoniously declared their allegiance to the rule of law," Gooden said. "I encourage them to follow those rules and hold Chairman Nadler accountable for breaking them."

    Democrats hold the majority in the House and are highly unlikely to act on Gooden's request.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/go...udiciary-committee-chairman-impeachment-probe
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    They didn't bleach the server. It a software program that overwrites the hard drive so it is completely erased.

    That is the proper procedure before dumping old hard drives.
     
  10. MARIS61

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    That is the felonious procedure when the hard drives were already designated as evidence by a Federal Judge who ordered them to be turned in to the DA in a court proceeding investigating HRC.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    I recently read Secret Empires and it's a quick, very informative compilation of some enormous crimes by some very popular politicians from both parties. Also provides some clarity to how Obama supposedly came out of nowhere to win the Presidency.

    The Bidens and Kerrys and their sons figure quite prominently. Here's a teaser:

    Peter Schweizer: Biden Ukraine dealings – 7 essential facts

    By Peter Schweizer | Fox News

    President Trump blasts left's double standard over Ukraine and Joe Biden

    Editor’s note: Peter Schweizer and the Government Accountability Institute spent three years investigating former Vice President Joe Biden and his son Hunter and their dealings in the Ukraine and China. The research culminated in the #1 New York Times bestselling book “Secret Empires: How the American Political Class Hides Corruption and Enriches Family and Friends” (Harper Collins, March 2018). Below are some of the results of the investigation.

    1. Joe Biden’s son, Hunter Biden, joined the board of Ukrainian energy company Burisma in April 2014, according to RSB bank records. Hunter Biden had little background in energy. Over a 16-month period, Burisma paid $3.1 million to a bank account associated with Hunter’s business.

    2. Joe Biden led the Obama administration’s policy toward Ukraine when he served as vice president. Biden helped shape Ukraine’s energy and anti-corruption policies, issues that directly impact Burisma.

    3. Burisma sought to capitalize Hunter Biden’s name and relationships. According to The New York Times, Hunter Biden helped assemble the company’s legal team, which consisted of American attorneys and consulting firms, including a former Obama Justice Department official.

    4. Burisma is led by an oligarch named Mykola Zlochevsky. Zlochevsky served as ecology minister under pro-Russia former Ukrainian leader Viktor Yanukovich, leading to allegations that he used his office to benefit Burisma.

    5. Burisma was under legal scrutiny. Shortly before Hunter Biden was appointed to Burisma’s board, British authorities froze $23 million of Zlochevsky’s assets as part of a corruption investigation. Ukraine opened its own probe later that year.

    6. Financial records from Morgan Stanley show numerous lines of money going into the account of “Robert H. Biden.” The funds originated from oligarchs and anonymous LLCs in Ukraine, China, Kazakhstan and elsewhere.

    7. In 2013, then-Vice President Biden and his son Hunter flew aboard Air Force Two to China. Ten days later, Hunter Biden’s firm scored a $1.5 billion deal with a subsidiary of the Chinese government’s Bank of China.

    https://www.foxnews.com/opinion/peter-schweizer-biden-familys-foreign-dealings-7-essential-facts
     
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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    It's legally required. And they've been holding it for at least a couple of weeks now.

    "A senior administration official" is full of shit. Not that that's news.

    barfo
     
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    What are you doing? You've already admitted you're biased against Hillary so you can't say bad things about her.
     
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    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    They wanted to hide the secret plans to the basement of that pizza joint.
     
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    It is not required in any legal sense, that is a lie.

    The supposed whistleblower doesn't even know what the call was about, merely saying what another anti-Trumper political cohort (who could be lying) told her/him.

    What has been alleged about the call is in no way illegal. A President can say anything he wants to another world leader, whether he means it or is using it as negotiating leverage.

    Ukraine interfered in our 2016 election in support of Hillary, they acknowledge it happened, and Trump has every duty to see that the Americans who were involved are brought to Justice. If Ukraine can help, and obviously they can, then it would be dereliction of duty to not ask them to.
     
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    It would be if Biden were President when he made the quid pro quo.
     
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    There's no visible connection between Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez and Pelosi's call for an impeachment investigation. A lot of people, Millions in fact, have been calling for Trump's impeachment, why not connect any of them with Pelosi's call for an inquiry?
     
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    Why do you call anything you disagree with a 'lie'?
    An official impeachment inquiry allows the courts to provide more support for more Congressional House subpoenas than otherwise. I think that was the point.
     
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    Unfortunately Lanny, I think Joe is now toast.
     

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