Sounds to me like he is spot on. I am not really big on the whole You Tube thing. But i wish you guys well and you put me on blast for being ingenuous? Whatever bro. Again. I wish you well. Yes i watched the first video for a bit. It was pretty much what i expected and i moved on. I still wish both of you all the best and i am very willing to support and even tell others about your gig. Take it how you want....
Honestly KJ, after meeting you I try to give you the benefit of the doubt because you seem like a good guy. In this situation you poo pooed it before it even started. You don't have to listen or like it or care, it's fine, but just cut the act that you were ever going to give it a fair shot. After your previous comments it does seem disingenuous when you wish us good luck. Since I've "known" you for so long, personally I would love to watch a video of you giving a little background about yourself before going into whatever you were talking about. Same goes for a majority of this board. Us introducing ourselves probably went on a little long but the fact you didn't listen to any of the basketball discussion and got held up on the personal stuff tells me that you just don't like us. That's fine, just don't pretend it's anything different.
To me it seems like you both took what i have said about internet media a bit personal. I maintain what i said about the venue. It's not mainstream. The original conversation was about Blazers Outsiders. Take it as you wish but that conversation wasn't even about you guys. Kind of seems like any conversation about You Tube automatically becomes a conversation about Bones/Hoops Podcast around here. Where did this even come from? If you get this from me wishing you guys the best and hoping you enjoy your journey then i really got to wonder what is gonna happen the first time someone tells you something you don't want to hear? Guess i'm gonna sit on the sidelines from now on and just read the responses. Good Luck
Dude just be real. Not only did you mention YouTube, you brought up specific examples of exact arguments you've had with Bones the last year and a half at least. On top of that, your post was directly in a thread where Bones and others were discussing mainstream versus his YouTube show. At the very least you should be aware enough to see how it looked directed at him personally.
You say people don't want a critical broadcast or too analytically based information. You say Blazers Outsiders works because they keep it positive and there is fluff. You say if things get too critical it won't succeed because the audience is limited and people will tune out. We weren't like that at all in our first episode yet you still tuned out. It's fine, I don't expect people to spend valuable time on our little show. However, saying you didn't like it isn't the same as saying the feedback Tortured gave. I think he'd agree that I've taken his feedback without feeling it was an attack.
By the way Riverman, I missed this post for some reason earlier. Thanks for giving it a listen. We definitely need to do better and will continue to try and do so. I'm not very comfortable yet, ha ha. Great idea about the loyalty topic.
Sorry Hoops you are wrong on this. Bones came into the conversation after it was started. Yes I did use conversation that has happened on this site. But please try to at least get out of your idea that those conversations were only with Bones. Just because he posted more than any other person on the site doesn’t mean he was the only person that I had conversations with. Again the conversation wasn’t about him. The one thing you will never have to worry about with me is me being real or genuine. The conversation was about Blazers Outsiders. Not only that you better go read again. I didn’t even know you guys were doing a you tube video together? I still thought he was doing his basic video breakdowns that he was doing last year. Again this site doesn’t revolve around you or Bones. Sorry dude. But the conversation wasn’t about you guys. Not sure how many times that needs to be said for either of you to understand what I was saying and meaning? Now once and for all I will say this one more time. I wish you both success in your endeavor with your podcasts or videos or whatever. I’m on the sidelines from this point forward. No reason for me to watch or respond because apparently if I give good feedback it won’t be genuine enough and if I criticize it won’t be authentic. Take care.
You obviously didn't read the Blazers Outsiders thread but are trying to say I didn't? Go read just the first page. You're full of shit and being fake as fuck right now. I have no respect for people who throw obvious shade at someone but don't say their name so they can use excuses like you're doing here. I don't mind the shots but trying to act all innocent afterwards is really annoying. You have strong opinions, don't pretend you didn't say shit after the fact. I'd have much more respect if you continued backing up what you started.
I was going to suggest a couple things after watching....your laptops are too front and center and both of you watch them too much or seem like you're trying hard not to at times....I'd get them to the side of yourselves...shut off cell phones...turn facing each other when talking and face the camera directly when talking to the viewers....eye contact is important...it's apparent both of you are cell phone...laptop watchers like most of us here...this will change the whole vibe of your podcast...both of you are very knowledgeable fans...it's why many video sports shows have curved tables...nobody wants to watch somebody watching media while talking....just a tip...maybe zoom in so the computers are out of the view entirely ….the audio was well balanced
I just said that! Its not about that. For the record, I wasnt referencing you, either. As HoopsJock says, you don't know the full context behind KJ.
I appreciate your feedback, truly do. Just gonna explain some of the dilemmas: It was a makeshift setup since we dont plan on doing it in person. I want to build a legit looking studio I just don't have the means yet. I was using cell phones for notes (would you recommend something else?). I also have to track the recording through my laptop so having that to the side is tough. When I'm switching scenes (like it the 2nd podcast) I also have to have easy use of my laptop. Zooming in sacrifices video quality so I figured that was worse than having our laptops in the frame. Couldve definitely moved the camera up a bit. 2nd podcast was probably better from a video standpoint and worse from an audio standpoint (Our audio couldnt be tuned after recording).
Thing is, people who didnt see this whole thing from the start dont see the full picture. They think its about us not taking criticism... Yeah right. There will always be criticism because certain people prefer different things and you cant satisfy everyone. Also, were new, so yeah, theres a lot fo fix up, as I said in my first podcast. So for anyone reading is, our issue with KJ is that he completely called me out in a different thread talking about how I would struggle and people wont want to watch my show, but he didnt directly name me (just referenced a hypothetical YouTube Postgame Show ran by someone who isnt a fan of Stotts...) so now he's pretending like he wasnt referencing me, all the while trying to play the nice guy and wish us luck while also doubling down on his earlier statements about people not wanting to watch us (we're not engaging).
Thanks Riverman! Our 2nd podcast from last night was much different looking as we were in different locations so there was a box on each of us without the laptops in view. Honestly, most of the time when I was looking at the computer I was watching the feed instead of looking at the camera like I should've been but I kept forgetting the camera was in a different spot. In the 2nd video I could only see Bones on the laptop so that's what I was looking at often. I'll try to get better at that. Unfortunately the audio was off in the 2nd one. It's definitely a work in progress. With technology it's definitely a double edged sword. It's so nice to quickly look up something and get an exact number or stat or whatever but you're right we don't want to just be dependent on that or always looking like we are preoccupied.
I'm human, and Ive met and had conversations with the guy for years. I dont think Ive said anything inherently bad. Just called out what he's doing. If I'm wrong, forgive me.
Okay because i honestly do value both you and Bones view on things i have now gone back and looked at the thread. As you have said. Yes Bones was in the conversation. I apologize for saying he was not in it. I had forgot about this post and his responses. It seems he was in there and i guess i can understand a bit more why you guy are responding this way. Makes more sense now that i'm reading it. He responded pretty nice actually to my comment but it truly was never really directed toward him. No @BonesJones you have not done anything wrong at all bro. I seriously never meant for this to touch such a nerve.
I went back and read it now. Bones seriously that was not really directed at you. I can understand why you might think it was but it was just my overall look at what the Blazer outsiders were doing. We get caught up in this stuff a lot. That was really my only point on the original post. I just don't see how this statement has made this much fuss?
