https://www.cbssports.com/nba/news/...ithin-first-week-of-training-camp-per-report/ Required to be barefoot and accurate from here on out. I'm pleased STOMP
We'll finally know how much difference there is between 6'3" CJ and 6'3" Dame. Watch Dame be taller...
The only time measurements are really of any value is before the draft. Once they are drafted it becomes pretty much irrelevant as either they can play or not regardless of height.
Heh... recently and over the years I've read soooooo many claims from posters of various players having growth spurts into their 20s justifying their listed measurement being several inches above what they measured barefoot at their respective combines. I've linked studies on growth showing how incredibly rare it is for males to grow significantly in their late teens/early 20s to no avail. I think you may be referencing a thread years back where posters were claiming CJ went on a late growth spurt after his combine making him a good fit size wise next to Dame. He was almost 22 years old at the time and measured 6'2.25 barefoot. The year prior, following 4 years of college Lillard had measured 6'1.75 barefoot at his respective combine. We shall see. In sports and life, some people choose a fantastical pretend world over actual facts. They shape things to the echo the reality they prefer. As a facts guy, I like that this move by the league regardless of what is revealed. STOMP
who's going to regulate it? What's to prevent teams from fudging? Like I said, the combine measurements are the ones that are only relevant and they are accurate for the most part. Once in the league it's your talent and not your measurements that carry one in the league.
If they can make it accurate then great but other than having a rep come out and measure every player i am not sure how the NBA will enforce this?
I love it. I get sick of announcers saying every tall guy is a "7 footer". There is no way Durant is 7 feet tall for example. Maybe 6-10, but not 7 feet.
@BonesJones and I talked about him on our podcast out later today. He thinks Durant will be a legit 7 footer. I think you're closer at 6-10.
Yup, I'd imagine both Nurk and Collins will be just a tad under. Meyers might sneak over, he's pretty close to being legit.
I think most players use their in shoes measurement and will likely round up so a 6'5.5" guy in shoes will be listed as 6'6". Aldridge on the other hand actually measured out at 6'11.25" with shoes and is listed at 6'11" so it seems to go both ways. To me it's a moot point as to what each players actual height is anyway as I will typically look at predraft measurements and not pay any attention after that. Like I pointed out earlier and KJ reemphasized is how is it really going to be monitored? and in my book why should we care as there will likely still be some fudging. I played in a 6' and under league and I was 6' and there were many players taller than me. A guy I went to high school with was listed as 6'2" in high school and was clearly taller than me and he joked that it was because of his fro. I had the curse of thin straight hair so it didn't make me look taller, lol.
For the posters who prefer reality based discussions, it will definitely have some benefits. Having an accurate baseline set of facts will debunk ridiculous claims from fantasy land posters trying to justify arguments they're making based on BS. It will shed light on whether a 2 can reasonably be expected to guard a 3 on switches etc. when we're debating Free Agents. Teams have no reason to fudge these sorts of measurements, but players do. Like I said, some posters prefer their fantasy world so I'm not surprised there is some resistance to this. STOMP
In what reality does it make a difference to a fan if CJ is 6'2 or 6'3 or Zach Collins is 610" or 6'11? Like i said, either the player can play or not. For the most part we're probably talking on average at most an inch and probably less
Not in reality, but in fantastical pretend time that I've encountered time and again (most recently from you) where a poster claims a player has bucked statistics and grown several inches after they came into the league. Despite repeating yourself again and again, you're wrong about this affecting listed measurements by an inch or less. For their height listing, players most commonly take their w/shoes measurement and round up which results in bumps of listings up to 2.5" over barefoot. Zach isn't listed at 6'11, he's listed at 7' despite measuring at 6'10.25 barefoot. Anfernee Simons measured 6'2.25 and is listed 6'4. Nassir Little just measured 6'4.5 barefoot and yet is listed today at 6'7. Those are Portland's last 3 picks, shall I continue? STOMP
You pretty much proved my point as I said most players use their with shoes measurement and round up which is exactly what you stated with Simons and Collins. If you thought ESPN or any other NBA sites measurements for players were their barefoot height, then that's on you as I never looked at it that way. By the way, on ESPN ( as well as at the predraft measurements) Little is listed at 6'6" not 6'7"which pretty much follows the same trend. Most measurements with shoes are anywhere from 1" to 1.5" more with a few exceptions. I will ask you this. If Little is listed at 6'4,5" (barefoot) on ESPN how does that change whether he can play or not? I really only look at measurements before the draft and after that, once drafted I evaluate them on what they can do on the floor, not on how tall they are. I would venture a guess that almost all the players listed on ESPN are measurements with shoes and rounded up so if you knock off that 1" to 1.5" of their height, it will still be about the same difference. I just don't see it as a big deal like you do. PS- Where did I make a claim that a player has grown several inches after drafted? If you can't provide the post, then please don't reference me as stating that.