Funny Gas is like $4.50 a gallon in LA.

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  1. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    LA is Portland's future. You'll have both like we do.

    That Vision Zero bullshit? They did that hear and it fucked shit up
     
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    I agree. Such a stupid approach when the funds for needed road construction could be obtained with a simple increase in gas tax. Of course, that wouldn't achieve the social engineering that they want by being able to tax you more for using the freeways during peak periods. Their approach is brutal on working class folks who can't afford to live close to work due to sky-high real estate prices and who have no choice as to their commuting hours.

    I do have to point out, however, that you can have higher gas prices and toll roads. There's no shortage of toll roads in California.
     
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    Both Canadian and Mexican gas prices are cheaper than California. European countries are about a buck a gallon more, primarily due to taxes.
     
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    But the taxes that were supposed to be earmarked for repairing roads, as was presented to the voters, is now being diverted via Governor's Executive Action to other programs.
     
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    Local roads? I thought they were just doing that with the 205 bridge
     
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    Last I heard, they were looking at tolls on the entire I-5 and I-205 corridors. They're also trying to figure out how to avoid drivers diverting onto local roads. Maybe Sly has some new info on that?
     
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    In asia it's sold by the liter, not gallon and I assume it's the same in Europe....never been there but Taiwan as I said even in the 80s was about 3bucks per liter...not gallon....that's way more than a buck difference...also why asia pioneered the use of small motors in vans, trucks, etc....they adapted and we're still driving big gas guzzlers to tail gate parties...America is the biggest car loving country I've ever seen..it's why our public transit systems suck...we don't seem to value the option. Texas probably has the cheapest gas around the states...maybe Oklahoma...don't drive there. Almost everyone I know who travels in Europe gets a Euro rail pass and loves it...they have great public transportation from what I've heard....we have Amtrak..slow and terrible
     
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    I have just been to Europe. In London when you convert the price - they pay about $5.8 per gallon. I paid $3.99 yesterday in San Diego (that's about $0.5 higher than normal because California mostly uses the Saudi oil and the recent drone attack really screwed supply).

    You could argue that the quality of gas in Europe is on average higher than the US - so the price difference is not that large, but I basically compared 'standard' to 'standard' given what is available.

    FWIW - The price is Israel is around $8.3 per gallon.
     
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    I think most of the price increase is the "switch from summer blend to winter blend" of gas. Then the refinerys screw up somehow. It happens every year like clockwork.
     
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    Most places sell by the liter. I’ve just been doing the liters to gallons and currency conversion math before posting. Japan is at about 142 yen per liter, which is equal to $4.95 a gallon.
     
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    This is from this morning

    https://www.cnn.com/2019/10/08/business/california-gas-prices/index.html

     
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    US avg gas price today was listed as 2.99 per gallon..
     
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    We had the same kind of refinery issue last year and the average price was about $0.5 less per gallon (My wife works for an energy efficiency company, we pay attention to these things). The delta vs. previous years is that constrained supply from the drone attack. The refineries usually (as this article you provided also states) schedule maintenance for winter time - and the spike with unscheduled outages are usually short - we had, as I said, the exact same issue last year. But the delta in price between this year and the previous one - is the drone attack.
     
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    When gas goes up....drive less...defeats their purpose with the law of supply and demand.
     
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    It happened to multiple refineries at once and the gas tax is 6 cents per gallon more. I'm sure the Saudi strike had something to do with this, but to say price increases are 100% because of it, is grossly misleading.
     

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