Sabonis on trade block

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  1. BonesJones

    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    1000%.

    I'd throw in Gary Trent Jr. as well.
     
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    BonesJones https://www.youtube.com/c/blazersuprise

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    2018-2019 Per 100 Possession Stats:

    Player A - 22 years old, 27.8 pts, 18.4 reb, 5.6 ast, 63.0 TS%, 118 ORTG, 104 DRTG, 0.98 DRPM
    Player B - 24 years old, 27.6 pts, 18.4 reb, 5.7 ast, 57.0 TS%, 116 ORTG, 105 DRTG, 3.35 DRPM

    Who are they? Who would you rather have?
     
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    It would be great to get him, but at this point we cannot afford trading Zach for him although Domas is clearly better right now. Nassir, Trent, pick etc we should do that yesterday.

    And with next year's cap space we wouldn't find anyone better.
     
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    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    No matter how many advanced stats you give me, nothing is ever gonna make me take Sabonis over Nurk...
     
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    That's probably the best offer we have (Little, Trent, and a 2020 1st). It's also likely not enough.
     
  6. BonesJones

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    The one advanced stat I used was in Nurk's favor.....
     
  7. Rastapopoulos

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    I love young Sabas (if only he was more like OG Sabas tho) but you can't play him alongside Nurk. So pick: Nurk or Sabas? I say Nurk.
     
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    I would without hesitation. Giving up Zach though...id have to think a lot on that...
     
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    This trade will not happen due there GM will never trade with us due to he got fire here.
     
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    If Pritchard could get Collins he may otherwise he'll deal with another team.
     
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    yeah....ok?

    he was a 22 year old big who had a PER of 21.9, a TS% of .630, and a winshare/48 of .197. He had a rebounding rate of 20.8% which was better than Kanter (20.6%) and Nurkic (20.2%). He averaged 4.2 assists/36 and had an assist rate of 18.2% which was better than Nurkic (17.9%) and CJ (13.8%)

    the fact he's only 1.5 years older than Collins with only 1 year more experience suggests he could easily have as much upside as Collins, if not more, and he's starting from a much higher level, right now, than Collins. His numbers compare more favorably to Nurkic than Zach's numbers compare with him

    I'm not saying I'd trade Collins for Sabonis because I'm not sure how suitable Sabonis is for PF, although he does have good mobility. That and the fact he'll be getting paid big-time in 8 months

    personally, I'm mostly convinced that's fake news. I don't believe it and it seems a lot like spin from somewhere in blazerland, maybe some ass-covering for a weak offer for Paul George...yeah - my theory

    Olshey didn't arrive till 3 years after KP was fired. Paul Allen is gone. IMO, If Portland offered a strong deal to Indiana, I really doubt KP would decline because Portland fired him a decade ago
     
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    Indy fans are saying the whole reason why he's not re-signed in the first place is because he can't play power forward. Offensively he can, but defensively not so much. So he's basically an undersized center. We don't need that.
     
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    Is that proven that he can't play PF? Lots of Blazers fans say Zach can't play PF either. It doesn't necessarily mean they can't.
     
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    bbref says he played 33% or the time at PF and 68% at C

    82games says the breakdown was Sabonis played 11% of Indy's PF minutes and 35% of their C minutes.

    so, they seem to have the breakdowns about the same. 82games breaks it down a little more: Sabonis was a slightly better offensively at C, going by PER and rebound rate; better eFG% at PF though. But Sabonis was much better defensively at PF. He gave up a PER of 22.4 at C and 13.5 at PF

    going by the numbers at 82games, Sabonis was a better overall PF last season than Zach. He just didn't play as big of chunk of his minutes there:

    http://www.82games.com/1819/18IND16.HTM

    http://www.82games.com/1819/18POR15.HTM
     
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    I think we need two types of PF's. Zach is one kind, and the other needs to be a very good perimeter shooter and perimeter defender. So Zach or Sabonis- but not both.
     
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    I think Sabonis would be a lateral move for any of our young bigs….I think Nas is going to be a keeper for one..I'm not sure Sabonis at his price is that big of an upgrade at the 4. The only guys on the roster that I have no attachment to are Trent Jr., Hoard and Tolliver or picks. I want to see what Pau brings to the mix before trading away the roster. To get Sabonis they'd want Whiteside probably ...I think that's what you'd have to consider to bring him to Portland.. Whiteside is a way better center in my view but he's expiring and expensive.
     
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    Cs are much better in the East than PFs.
     
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    A year older than Zach.

    Who says no to Zach for him?
     
  19. Natebishop3

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    I say no.
     
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    Why on earth?
     

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