Politics Former Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich says he's now for impeaching Trump

I am not a democrat as I registered independent and have always voted for those I felt can do the better job regardless of party affiliation. I will not vote for trump as his values are not aligned with mine at all but would consider any candidate whether democrat or republican. I will never vote a 3rd party unless they can demonstrate they have enough of a following to make it a race otherwise it is a wasted vote and might as well not even vote.

 

Im not saying you’re a democrat, Im saying your reasoning in this election will be, “It’s not Trump”. That will be the the same for many, and the motivation for that is because of your life experiences, your genetics, and your feelings on Trump. Which is not really that much different at its core then when a “single issue” voter says this thing is so important to me that I vote for whoever I think aligns with me on that issue.

 

If it was one single issue that has made me not ever want trump then I would agree that it might be comparable to a single issue voter, but their are a multitude of issues in my book and much of it is how he represents our country. There is not one issue that would ever make me want trump as our president. That's the difference between a single cause voter and myself. He is so out of touch with the middle class and down and represents his base (and mainly himself) and the hell with anyone else.

 

But what motivates your decisions is your feelings, genetics and life experiences right? Which is essentially what is motivating the cause of a "single-issue" voter. The single issue in this election for many people is essentially getting rid of Trump, because all of those come together for a person and makes certain things exceptionally important for them. Like I've read you say that what Trump represents scares you when it comes to your kids and grandkids and their growing up, that's feelings, and our life experiences make us think he's a crook. I'm just trying to point out that essentially what makes an "issue" super important to someone boils down to the same "group" of things for all of us, it's just that we all have our own perspective make up based on those things. It's not that I think there is anything wrong with someone voting because they want Trump out.

 

With one more point and I will use the pro life single issue (it could be one of many other issues) as an example. From my understanding someone like abm votes for anyone that is pro life regardless of any other policies or misgivings. Where as I look for compromises and give and take on the over all aspect of what a candidate stands for and is looking to offer, not just one thing. My main point for not using a single issue as a reason to vote for a candidate is that a president may not even be able to deliver on that single issue and then you have the rest you are stuck with. Maybe I'm not reading it right, but that's how I interpreted it as wanting trump out isn't a single issue. It's a multitude of issues that have been discussed many time already so I won't list them all. Anyway, it is what it is.

 

I may not be articulating it well, but what I'm trying to get at is that what goes behind our values and what's important to us is pretty similar at the end of the day in terms of what those issues or "issue" is that is usually unique to the individual for why that one thing or multiple things is a big deal to them. It comes down to genetics, life experiences and feelings for you, just like it does to ABM, in ABM's case those things make up someone who votes for anti-abortion stuff because those things all come together to give him an issue he feels strongly about. Whereas with you or me those things come together to make up what is important to us, now it may not come down to a "single-issue" for us, but it's still a conglomeration of those things that dictate what issues we do or don't feel strongly about.

 

Personally I'm from the camp that believes in complete separation of church and state....I'm guessing you're not...fair enough but that's really what this issue comes down to as a legal issue. We have the death penalty also enacted with religious leadership...if our country is a true republic it must represent their beliefs as well as those of one's spiritual personal belief. The great thing is that you as a parent have the right to exercise your belief in the right to life..and women who are not attached to your morality concerning this have an equal right to exercise their right to terminate an early fertilization for whatever problems they associate with their personal condition. They answer for their own actions in the end if your beliefs are in fact true. I believe it's their right to make that choice as it is your right to make your choice...The church is simply not the Supreme Court for everyone

 

Presidents do influence our daily life. They preach good citizenship from the bully pulpit. Note how Trump's behavior has increased violence in this country which is another example of how a President can influence our behavior in our daily life.

 

I would love to see Kasich win the Republican nomination for President but, face it, there is zero percent chance of that happening.

 

In my case it was a combination of the moral teachings of my church and my parents and my peers. I look for intelligence wherever I can find it. I'd like to also add that when I post in here, it gets my thinking processes stimulated and I can evolve on issues right here.

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I'd like to add that a spark of curiosity which must grow needs be planted somewhere in your development. It's really curiosity that makes us learn stuff.

 

Absolutely.

ABM is on the record as saying that he's a single issue voter on abortion. I was questioning what motivates someone to be a single-issue voter, and why the choice of that particular topic as the single issue. His opinion on abortion aside from that is of little interest to me.

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That was your post I replied to. You were questioning what motivates someone to be a single issue voter yet you start your reply by saying of course you understand what motivates people to feel strongly about an issue.

Then you clearly say his opinion on abortion isn't interesting to you, and now you're claiming that you're just looking to understand each other. If you really wanted to understand him on this you have this backwards. What you should want is to get a clear understanding of what motivates him on this particular issue and why he feels strongly about it.

Never said stop talking policy because just have thoughts and feelings, but if their reasons for those thoughts and feelings have little interest to you then you really don't wish to understand them in my opinion.

 

Sure there's a difference.
It may be incorrect, but I'm not sure why you're only interested in what makes someone a "single issue" voter but also sort of making an argument for lets talk and understand each other. So you only want to understand one aspect of them? It seems odd but who knows this is just text and we may just not be articulating our thoughts and intentions well.

 

I’m fine with someone having abortion being their sole or primary reason for voting for someone. I’m not fine with anyone choosing this as their reason for support when there are a multitude of things that the same candidate does that shows no care or sympathy for humans once they you know, take their first breath.

 

This single issue in my mind far outweighs any other positions/issues. I'm totally against the killing of future Americans. All other issues can be worked around.

 

Heh, no. I'm opposed to the abortions of anyone. I just kept the context within America.