Politics Former Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich says he's now for impeaching Trump

No, but he did try and grab her pussy

 

My wife watched it, I'm not 100% sure why... Maybe after 4 she was like time to consider the abortion route... I have no idea lol.

 

I'd say leave her her cat out of this....but I understand.

 

Well, there are solutions for that, as well.

 

My issue with voting 3rd party candidates is unless they have enough of a following and have a legit chance then it's a wasted vote and might as well not vote, but then you're not being a factor in the election. I can't even think when a 3rd party candidate was a legitimate contender.

 

oh... I know....

 

the fetuses that didnt get aborted that are now separated from their moms are on line 2

 

I understand but in my lifetime Oregon's never been that close to Red so I've always felt in the general election my votes going Blue anyways. Voting is supposedly how I tell the leaders in the country "what I want", it's supposed to be my "voice" in a lot of ways. I want a strong third party, I'd like it to be libertarian (it doesn't have to be I suppose), obviously it's not the only thing that's important to me when it comes to voting I probably wouldn't ever vote for a few of the smaller parties if that was my only option. What I would want them to take from it is that I'm displeased with the GOP and DNC (though I know no one cares lol). If there was an R or D who I really liked I would vote for them, but as of yet I haven't found that to be the case.

 

Probably Ross Perot.

FWIW, Teddy Roosevelt was a "Progressive" in 1912 and won 27% of the vote.

 

George Washington was our first independent party president...and he didn't want the job...the dems and republicans wanted to make him King originally...he was too independent for any of that partisan crap. Ross Perot came closest probably....people knew who Ralph Nader was at least but the general voting public has been tricked into an election cycle that censors any non bipartisan affiliations....I voted Libertarian last time and tried that route in a lose lose election...not happening this time. Sometimes in life is a process of elimination that has to occur.....and the current incompetent administration has to go. The consequences of another 4 years of Trump are just too dangerous to tolerate. It sucks that there's a bottom line this time around but it is what it is. If Kasich ran as an independent he'd probably get what Ross Perot got...not nearly enough to win. If Trump resigned and they ran Kasich or Romney or anybody, they'd have a chance to keep the White House. I think propping up Trump will crush the GOP for a long time to come. I hope that this accomplishes the rise of other political parties and gives americans a broad spectrum of choices...and I hope they learn to vet candidates properly before they are allowed to run for office

 

I pretty much knew it was Perot, but even at that he failed to pick up a single electoral vote (I have never been a fan of the electoral college, but that's a whole different discussion) and had less than half the popular votes of Clinton that year so he really wasn't a factor either.

As for you wanting to have a do over in the supreme court, is that really fair? I haven't seen or read anything that suggests there is a problem other than guys like you wanted pro life. I'll use Mick Mulvaney's words "get over it". Speaking of Mulvaney, that was pretty funny in his press conference where he described the Ukraine call and holding back of funding already agreed on as a quid pro quo. You just can't make this stuff up, no matter how hard they try and spin it, lol.

 

To me, when it comes to voting, it's a case of give and takes. I realize I will never agree 100% of any candidate, but I decided awhile back that I at least want a factor in the election and until a 3rd party can compete, I don't even pay attention to them

 

Title X - Family Planning:
The following legislative mandates have been part of the Title X appropriations language for a number of years. In addition, FY2019 appropriation language states that funds would be available “Provided, that amounts provided to said projects under such title shall not be expended for abortions, that all pregnancy counseling shall be nondirective, and that such amounts shall not be expended for any activity (including the publication or distribution of literature) that in any way tends to promote public support or opposition to any legislative proposal or candidate for public office.”

https://www.hhs.gov/opa/title-x-family-planning/about-title-x-grants/program-priorities/index.html

Rent and other building expenses from the Federal government is prorated such that none of it goes toward assisting abortions. I thought that was clear.

States can spend their money however they want but none of the Federal money goes toward abortions, zero.

 

I think that's part of the problem though. The DNC / GOP have such a stronghold on it that no one pays attention to them, so they'll never be a "factor" because they make sure to tell everyone, hey a vote for them is a "wasted vote".

 

If you can't make it up....and spin it into the ground, then, truly, impeachment should be an easy exercise.

 

I don't know about that as third party candidates have always been huge underdogs in my lifetime and have never really performed very well.

 

I understand but I think it's because no one pays attention to them. The DNC / GOP are so massive and have so much of their own media outlets and all of that they can drown out third party candidates who can't get nearly the same amount of face time, can't get their thoughts and messages out to the masses the same way. I mean Hillary is already coming out and trying to stop people from running as a Third Party... It won't stop at Tulsi. Isn't it kind of circular though, they're always an underdog and never given consideration by a lot of people simply because they're seen as a wasted vote. The two major parties push that narrative too. They can never get any footing because people who WOULD vote for them have been told it's a wasted vote and because they don't want to waste their vote they pick from the two nominees even if they would otherwise choose option 3...

 

It would be if the republicans in the senate had a spine, but you have been told that many times before and will be told that every time you use that line so why keep trying to use it?