Politics Former Republican Ohio Gov. John Kasich says he's now for impeaching Trump

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  1. TorturedBlazerFan

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    Sorry I misspoke (typed?), I meant to say if everyone voted for Trump, Hillary would've lost.
     
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    I have to take this back. I'd looked too quickly and found something posted shortly after election day that wasn't final. It looks like the final count in PA had Hillary + Jill > Donald.

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    I'd say many people voted in the last election as a vote that was against the other candidate/s winning. It's been a pretty common theme that I hear frequently, "I voted for Trump, because Hillary" or vice versa, so I guess I believe often times our votes for, ARE a vote against. In the case of voting third party for someone like me, my vote is against both. Whether that's closer to not voting at all, I'm not sure. Now I did spend most of my education in PPS's, but I remember being taught that you vote so you can get your opinion's out, and so you have a voice and because if you don't in a lot of ways you void your own argument when you have problems with how things turned out because you didn't do anything. It seems to me, voting no matter how you vote is at least doing something...
     
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    ^^^This...and it's a pretty said state of affairs and in general, somewhat of an indictment of the state of our country as a whole. I mean, I cannot believe our choices were Hillary f'n Clinton and Donald f'n Trump. Seriously, is this the best we have to offer? That's tantamount to having to choose between a gun to the head or a knife in the back. And sadly, it's also a barometer as to how badly disconnected we are as a nation.
     
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    It's doing something, but it's not necessarily doing much.

    Suppose you write in Damian Lillard for President. Does anyone, anywhere, notice that you voted for Dame? Is it any different in effect than not voting?

    Other people decide the election, your vote for Dame is completely irrelevant.

    The situation is not so different if you vote for a minor party candidate.

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    It's giving numbers to another political party that really needs the support...in my case it has value if you think the election won't be close...which was my take last time. I want third party exposure in campaigns so I valued that vote....this time it would be a waste. I never dreamed the popular vote would be at all close against Trump
     
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    Hard to be oversensitive about a trembling fear of waking up in the middle of the night to a bunch of men in white garb with their heads and faces hidden who have a burning cross in your front yard and a rope hanging over a large branch in a near by tree.

    Even as late as 1966 I remember a crew of workmen who told me how as volunteer firemen in their town of Rome, Georgia, they delayed their departure to the burning home of the only Black family to move in to their fair haired city such that the home burned down before they got there. And then they laughed.

    Blacks have been terrorized for a century after slavery with the pinnacle being getting dragged out of bed at night just to be lynched. Yeah, they're a little sensitive.

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    I think that voting for someone who actually ran a campaign, from a party that is trying to earn its legitimacy is different then writing in someone who wasnt running, didn't go through any of the process, didn't lay out their policy.
     
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    And when was the last time that happened?...when was the last time a black was born into slavery?...when was the last time a black was denied a seat on a bus?...or been denied to vote?...or denied the right to an education?

    Sorry, but whitey can no longer be blamed for every calamity a black person may encounter.
     
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    Very true statement for me. Look, had I known Trump was gonna pull these number of shenanigans we're all witnessing these days, I may very well have re-thunk that strategy. But, at the time, I was so bent on Hillary NOT becoming our President, I HAD to vote for Trump. Any vote for a 3rd party candidate would have lessened his chances of beating her. We can debate the single-issue voting stance all day long, but in the grand scheme of things, my vote at that point in time was truly against Hillary. I SO wanted Kasich, though.
     
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    Trump in his campaign speech proclaimed we're now building a beautiful wall on the border of C0lorado and one in New Mexico too...big beautiful walls....the guy doesn't even realize Colorado borders New Mexico, not Mexico...…..Mexico could just steal New Mexico now and Trump wouldn't notice it's gone! He'll fix it with a sharpie for sure
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/d...a-wall-in-colorado/ar-AAJg92d?ocid=spartandhp
     
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    Hey, that's profiling !...and it's gotta be "fake news".......because Trump is a very "stable genius".
     
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    The question is - did New Mexico pay for it. Also, I have seen Breaking Bad and there are criminals there - so, there is a reason to build that wall.
     
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    All one had to do is research his history and listen to how he was talking during the republican primary and then during the general election to know that this guy is clueless and would be horrible for the country.
     
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    I hear ya...
     
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    lol...now Trump is tweeting that he was only "kidding" when he said "we're gonna build a wall in Colorado".

    Yup, I shit you not.
     
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    I've been trying to get my wife to move to a foreign country for years, maybe this is my chance... Probably not though... Something about family and all that stuff.
     
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    I recommend it..changed my view of the world in the couple decades I lived overseas.....America doesn't seem so big and important when you live outside of it. You get better world news as well. Here sports, politics and entertainment in general clutter up all the space on the news in my view. It's also been proven that children who learn another language do better in academics than those with only one language skill. With Skype or Facetime you can talk to your relatives everyday from most places without living there. When my wife and son went to visit family in Taiwan a few years ago we talked on Skype twice a day...amazing tool for the ex pat
     
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    He should learn the moon walk as he certainly has the back pedal down pat. :blazerwookie:
     
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    The man has no integrity and no convictions...he just craves an audience that adores him...nothing else matters...his defense is childish...he'll just say anybody is dumb as a rock...even people he hired and praised like his generals and cabinet members....which is weird because Trump is such a cream puff trying to be a bully....he uses words like Lynch mob because he wants to sound like John Wayne in a cowboy movie...the guy is that shallow.
     
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