Well, then, show me a poll that has Trump beating all the wanna-be Democratic candidates and we'll be good. OK, lemme translate that.....it's WAAAAY to early for this stuff. I'm only contributing to this thread because it's kinda fun.
Of course, Trump is in the mind of all sane people who now realize just how much damage he can do. This is the reason that I predict that his defeat in November of next year may be by the largest margin ever.
There's nothing funny about a discussion about Trump unless you talking about his spelling or grammatical errors.
Our country's foundation is way beyond the ability of Trump's - or anybody else's - ability to destruct it. All is well.
I disagree. ... mostly because of Trump, the country is now more divided than it's been since the Civil War. And I cannot think of anything noteworthy that he's accomplished since he took office.
All is well? Did God tell you that? I don't think so. Is all well when you have a president that: Constantly lies (what's he up to 13,000 plus now Personally attacks anyone that disagrees with him Alienates our allies cozy's up to dictators and thinks they are great people Bribes a country to try and dig up dirt on an opponent Threatens to nuke North Korea Thinks Putin is great Locks immigrant children in cages without adequate essentials for survival Takes money from other departments that congress already allocated to pay for a wall that is already being penetrated with a sawzall Claims to be a Christian while talking about grabbing women in the pussy and having several affairs including a pornstar he paid off. That's just a portion but I think you're catching the drift. Voters voted in 2016 for a change and were duped and 2018 and so far in 2019 the voters are now speaking again with their vote and moving away from the trumpers. such a really neat guy right Yeah, he makes me so proud of our country
Garsh, that's probably not even the half of it. Obviously you have no problem with anything on the list cause all you can come up with garsh. I'd hate to face you in a debate.
I disagree, and please dont take that as disrespect. I dont believe its mostly because of Trump. I think Trump is a symptom of the problem. I think its a matter of two sides who have grown further and further divided by politics, and corruption and trust. Trump may be pressing the buttons to speed up division, but those were all put in place by years of hard work of our politicians agenda’s and thirst for power. They have been in divide and conquer mode for years, as long as Ive been adult. I was thinking about it today and whats crazy about how far the two sides have seperated is no matter who wins, its creating a lot of “losers”, and not just in the boo-hoo we lost an election, but its created a legitimate fear that people fall into. Think of it this way, how many people hate Trump because they’re afraid what that means for THEM, their loved ones, all that, they think his rhetoric is wrong for America, and harmful. -Id probably agree with them, but right or wrong or our feelings on this isnt the point. The same is true of many people on the other sides of these elections, they view the other sides candidate as dangerous, harmful to their way of lives, harmful to their loved ones. It used to be more a matter of oh there will be some bad and good policies from these people I want to vote for them because they’ll e act policies I’ll like, it used to be well we lose an election and thats ok. The last 20ish years its more than that, its controlling people through fear. You can say its all because one side is stupid, or sheeps, or whatever, but its very real, people are fearful of what people of the “other side” will do to them, and fear drives people. Our politicians, our education systems, our media has created not only a cycle of hatred between the extremes of these factions, but a cycle of fear. Trump’s presence, whoever comes next will probably be even more of a response to peoples fear and that is what started this, we have not had unity at our top in decades and that has created a lot division amongst people who for the most part all just want to go about their lives in peace, but are scared of their values and beliefs being devalued, to the point that they as individual feel like they dont have value.
How about this. trump gets impeached you leave the forum for a month. If he doesn't then I will. Just agree and we are on.
It isn't the media that has created the fear, it has been trump. Listen to all of his campaign speeches back in 2015/16 and they were all built on the demise of the USA and how horrible the country has been run and then he gets elected and he claims he has saved the USA where as in reality he has created more separation among the people than any president during my lifetime. He puts fear into the people. Have you heard any of the democratic candidates talk so derogatory of the republicans like trump does of the democrats? Have you heard any of those candidates continually use derogatory name calling towards trump. or any of his administration? He has more resignations and firing of people in his administration than any president. Why is that? He fires people till he eventually gets someone who is nothing but a yes man (Barr, Pompeo). He doesn't listen to any of the experts cause he thinks he's smarter than anyone else which makes him very dangerous for our country.
The media fear mongering happened long before Trump. Yes I have heard both republicans and democrats long before 2016 go at each other with name calling and fear mongering. Also heck yeah I hear the current crop of democratic candidates taking shots at Trump and his followers all the time, the debates so far have been you need a clap you just say Trump cant do math or something, or call him something, derogatory. There was fear long before Trump got here and it has been sown for years. Im not going to argue with you about if Trump is good or bad thats not the point the point, is there are a lot of people just like you who have fears of another four years of Trump and what that does for what you believe the country should look like and whether your values are important or not. Theres also many people on the other side who believe that your views are dangerous and have all their own fears. Like I said I fall mostly that the Trumps way of handling our country doesnt work IMO, but the environment we see now, is NOT just Trump showed up out of no where, it is years worth of division, dissent pointing fingers, hate, and fear mongering to the point that people are legitimately scared of what Trump will do, or what whoever the DNC’s candidate will do. Because they used to in the general elections start seeking the center but the last 3-4 elections they just pander to their base, and are clearly only really trying to lead the ones who agree with them. Trump, and the Trump supporters crowd are a symptom of the problem, they are not the originators of the problem. Hate begets Hate as the saying goes, but fear is similar and what we have right now is two sides that do basically hate each other, and two sides that are fearful of what the other side will do to them if they win or lose.
