Politics My doctor hates Trump

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  1. calvin natt

    calvin natt Confeve

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    This is responsible.

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    Dude, you're voting for a guy who literally insults everyone in his path. From veterans to the disabled to women. Don't get all fake outrage on me now.

    So, you're voting for a guy who lies even more than the pundits do? Does that make sense? If I wanted to spite everyone I didn't know who disagreed with me I'd just end up screwing myself and everyone around me. Why are you so concerned about them that you're willing to hurt yourself and your own country? Seems like backwards ass thinking.
     
  3. dead247

    dead247 Well-Known Member

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    But let's ignore all of those veterans, disabled, and women who voted for him.



    Oh that's not subjective at all.
     
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    AmirIcon Well-Known Member

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    So, does voting for him make him not insulting? What kind of logic are you using here? You posted so I'm discussing you. Not the "voters."

    It's actually not. I've noticed that people who don't like to read or learn new pieces of information throw their hands up and say everything is subjective. Or that everyone does the same thing the president does. It's just lazy. There's nothing subjective about my claim at all. There's nobody on the air that does straight news reporting that lies to you as much as the president does. If you think that's subjective, then you're already a lost cause.

    Stop with the false equivocation.
     
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    I suppose you think the swamp leach hanging on the teat in the Ukraine was a lie?
     
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    I'm not implying that voting for him makes him not insulting and that's actually an insult to intelligence. He has insulted some people and I won't deny that. Thing is, I think that voting for a candidate based on policies is more important than some people's feelings. It's not the easiest thing to say, but I stand by it.

    And now you're implying that I don't like to read or learn new info. You really don't know me. I used to vote democrat, but learning new info led me to stop doing so. And I think you're totally wrong about on air reporting. The media lies to us WAY more than trump does imho.
     
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    You’re right. Other presidents have smiled and waved while lying us into wars that kill thousands. That’s how you act ‘presidential’. Much of the Trump criticisms are perfectly valid, but this shit where everyone is pretending he’s the worst person who’s ever been president is just stupid and false. It really shows people’s priorities (or lack therof). I guess a lot of people are fine with getting bent over as long as the person doing it “talks nice” lol. Acting “presidential” is just a euphemism for being a well-mannered lying prick, as opposed to just a regular lying prick.
     
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  8. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Based on what?...your opinion?
     
  9. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Yes, actually he is, and it's not even close. There has never been another POTUS who lies with a greater frequency and behaves as rudely as Trump.

    If you can offer actual proof to the contrary, please provide it.
     
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    Generally the burden of evidence lies with the one making the claim. Just blurting out a random unprovable factoid and demanding someone prove you wrong is kind of stupid. Did you really expect me to dig up some tally list of Trump lies and compare it to other presidents’ non-existent lie tally lists?

    Like I said though, priorities (or lack therof). War and death are just fine as long as the president talks nice. Ok.

    No meanies though!

    Are we going to pretend Bush wasn’t worse than Trump?
     
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    Starting a thread by attacking everyone who might disagree with it, doesn't seem to be a logical way to begin an adult conversation/debate on any topic.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Sorry, but this is not "unprovable".

    https://www.businessinsider.my/trump-impeachment-public-hearing-gop-senators-claim-busy-2019-11/

    https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2016/01/28/upshot/donald-trump-twitter-insults.html

    And we don't need to "pretend Bush wasn't worse than Trump" because, well, he wasn't. Did Bush lie or deliberately mislead
    13,435 times (and counting)?...Did Bush hurl 598 (and counting) insults?

    I have provided actual evidence while you have provided none. Doesn't exactly speak volumes about your case.
     
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    FACT, documented over 13,000 lies, or misleading statements by trump. Show me a president that comes close.
     
  14. calvin natt

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    Find a poll or a news source you believe, so Im thinking Fox or whatever, and see if they even support the fact that he lies more than any president we have on record. Everyone lies. Not everyone lies the same amount. At some point today, he will completely make something up, no basis, no fact, no supporting evidence, just will speak and lie. Blatantly lie to the public, and his followers will cheer and clap their hands.
     
  15. jonnyboy

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    Lies>dead bodies.

    Got it guys, no further explanations needed.

    You’re literally proving the point I’m trying to make for me. And that is that there are actually dipshits out there that think lies are worse than wars.

    Hot take:
    You guys are more right wing than me...by a lot.
     
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    You were the one who jumped from "he lies" to wars. Not me. I have not mentioned Bush or wars once until right now. I said Trump is a liar like no other President ever. Fact. And calling us dipshits isnt OK, dont do it again.
     
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    It’s hilarious, I bring up a 20 year long war that’s killed thousands of innocent people and the responses I get are links to stories about trump lying. I bet there are more dead kids in Iraq than lies on your little lists. Pull your heads out of your asses.
     
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    keep moving the goal posts. if it makes you feel better.
     
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    Didn’t call you dipshits directly. But if you want to lump yourself into the large group I was referring to, I won’t argue.
     
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    You guys are the ones having the “who can count the most trump lies” contest. Yankee said Trump is worse than Bush. I disagreed, then you guys started lie counting because apparently “lies” are the only metric by which a persons shittiness can be measured. Apparently starting wars doesn’t count in your little bad man contest.
     

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