It's time for CJ McCollum to go.

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    that's what has pissed me off. It's been pretty widely reported that CJ was untouchable when Butler, Paul George and Kawhi were available. It's a terrible overrating of Cj's limited talent and value.

    but as Blazer fans, we're stuck with it as long as Olshey is the GM, IMO. Stuck with CJ hogging 26% of the possessions; stuck with him chucking 20 shots a game; stuck with him hogging 25% of the salary cap. Stuck with him being an inadequate 2nd option for a contender. Stuck with him burning thru shot clock with fancy dribbling, obnoxious dribbling; and stuck with his mediocre efficiency. As longs as he's the #2 option in the offense and on the cap, Portland is a pretender
     
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    Two reasons...

    1) Stotts only still has his job because Dame vouched for him. Stotts doesn't want to do anything that could possibly lose Dame's loyalty. It's the same reason why Olshey never considered trading CJ.

    2) He needs CJ to make tough shots otherwise like right now when CJ is playing horribly inefficient it makes his offense look very mediocre.
     
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    BigGameDamian Well-Known Member

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    I heard that Orlando and SAS are in talks about a DeMar DeRozan.
     
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    beast blazer Well-Known Member

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    Stotts gig is ,keep my stars happy so I don't get fired.
     
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    I think you have to include minutes per game and who finishes the game too for accountability.
    Right now and probably for years, if Simons is shooting the ball well Stotts only action is to have the 3 guards in the game at the same time, even if Lillard or McCollum aren't shooting the ball well, and we end up with both poorer defense and poorer offense. It's not like there is some great unbeatable chemistry between Lillard and McCollum either.
     
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    I've given up on CJ being traded. Dame and him are redundant and horrible together on defense. That being said, Blazers brass just gave CJ a huge contract extension and I doubt he's a very attractive trade chip now. What we can hope for is Nurk to get back and look good before the trade deadline so we can trade Whiteside's expiring contract and a pick for either Blake Griffin or Kevin Love. This would give our starting lineup extra fire power and our bench more depth.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Griffin was traded for a pretty reasonable haul after signing a 5 year max contract. My only hope is CJ plays well enough over these next few months to garner some trade value.
     
  8. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Who is the Tobias equivalent that CJ could help bring in? He was putting up 18/5/2 and only 25 yrs old in DET before getting traded.

    It was Harris/Bradley/future first (#12, Miles Bridges). That is unbelievable value for Blake, even if he made All NBA the year after.
     
  9. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Yeah, but Boban was also part of that deal. We don't have a Boban to offer.
     
  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Boban went from DET to LAC.

    Clips included Willie Reed and Brice Johnson (Skal equivalent maybe).
     
  11. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Here's some names I pulled out by sorting for win shares and PER, intuition, etc etc , that could headline a CJ deal similar to what LAC got for Blake.

    OG Anunoby, Luke Kennard, Jeremy Lamb (bleh), Myles Turner, Will Barton, Harrison Barnes, Jonathan Isaac (my absolutely favorite, but longshot).

    Any of these names interest you guys? I love the idea of Isaac, or even Turner who Indy prolly wants to get rid of. OG has been a target of mine since his draft.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Aaron Gordon.

    Not gonna let this go as Gordon has a declining contract and they would have to add another piece to make the deal work. DJA is expiring and could give us some backup PG relief. Hell, they could add Aminu who is already out of the rotation but would integrate well back here.
     
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    Can you imagine CJ under Nick Nurse if we traded him to Toronto? LOL, Nurse would either murder him or turn him into an all-NBA player.

    By the way @illmatic99, weren't you the one who pooped all over my CJ trade scenarios to each team last year? I think just about every guy on your list was a guy I mentioned, except I can't stand Barton's game. Plus a lot of those moves would've led to having cap space last summer to add/keep more talent this past off season.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Honestly think I'd be convinced into that now. Would much rather take on Fournier and Isaac, but beggars can't be choosers.
     
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    Aaron Gordon sucks.
     
  16. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Yes. Things change. Desperate times. That damn contract extension has me perceiving that CJ's value is actually lower now than last year.
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Hmmm, might be fun to revisit some of those.
     
  18. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Not really. And we didn't know ant was this good. We can afford to move CJ with his replacement right there
     
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    New York Knick & target Mitchell Robinson.

    Get Morris & Ntikkilti as a bonus
     
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    Everyone's piling on:
     
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