what fuck are you talking about. I said to make them scared shitless so they don’t let their guns out of their sight or safe. That if they get them taken but a kid they are fucked. Learn to read
what fear? Of my kids someday getting caught in a situation that happened today in California? Yep. You must not have kids. If you do, do you see them? What other fear are you talking about?
Stop signs aren't for sale illegally and criminals don't use them in order to commit a crime. And common criminals don't go to schools and commit the kind of crimes we saw yesterday. And those crimes also are not committed by NRA members. (and no, I'm not a member) People who want a gun for whatever reason, will find a way to get one and f'd up people will continue to do f'd up things. My point is that even more legislation won't help our problem as much as changing our culture.
I don't feel nearly as strongly anti-gun as @calvin natt does. I don't own any guns, I don't shoot guns, I don't have any reason to be "pro-gun". I just feel and think differently about it then he does. I have kids too, I understand that it's a terrifying thought that sending your kids to school or to the movies you could get a text of an active gunman at WalMart and all of that. I think it's a cultural problem, I think technology, and "media" (all of it), and there are just a lot of factors that come into play in regards to whats wrong, and I don't think getting rid of guns necessarily get's rid of those problems, or makes the world a less dangerous place. However, getting guns out of people's hands DOES create an actionable item that will prevent at least some of these violent outbursts, and having stricter laws in regards to guns, even if it just prevents one shooting, isn't that worth it? I bet if those laws kept the three of those kids alive yesterday the parents would say it was worth it.
This is a common belief, and its unfortunate. The, "well, the guns are out there, so theres nothing we can do" and throw hands up. Its pathetic. You have to do EVERYTHING. Changing the culture - sure, lets do it. That should be a quick process. In the meantime, let's change the culture on our guns in the country. Let's make it harder to get, stricter laws to keep and own, and punish the owners of the guns for the crimes that are committed with their gun. Who has a problem with that? People who dont want to do those things? Fuck them. People who cant keep track of their gun? The guns on the streets are out of our control. But the guns that kids take from dad and go shoot at school?
There have been multiple pieces of "legislation" passed over the years and each one was supposedly better than the one before it...they all failed to do what they were intended to do. Penalizing or even criminalizing the people who do not secure their weapons/firearms will not deter people who don't give a damn about how they obtain a weapon in order to kill people. I'm not denying that we have a serious problem in this country but I just don't see legislation will solve it...people who have it their mind to do harm to others will always find a way of doing so. If they can't get a gun, they can easily make a bomb or whatever. For the most part, you don't see the attacks like we've seen way too often recently in other countries around the world, only happen here in the US. Again, IMO, the problem has less to do with the availability of firearms and more to do with our culture.
Kids cannot "easily make bombs". The fact that it doesnt happen around the world like it does here, yet the entire world has mental/emotional issues, tells you that there is something maybe....about the access to guns being the issue. The Netherlands has mental health issues like Canada does like Australia does like America does. If gun owners kept their guns locked up, that might stop a kid from stealing dad's gun. If every gun owner knew he was responsible for whatever happened with his gun, it MIGHT make people more careful.
Yes, kids can easily make bombs...it's not that hard and the different components needed to make them are not that hard to find...I'm sure there's plenty of info on the internet with instructions...hell, there's probably a youtube video that shows how. I'm also sure that gun owners already know that they are responsible for their guns and can be held libel for allowing them to fall into the wrong hands yet still it happens...and there are other laws designed to protect us from our selves but you just cannot depend people to do the right thing. As Ron White says, "You can't fix stupid".
And I didn't say we did...I simply said that there are other ways to kill people other than firearms, including bombs.
ok i guess i dont know what your point is then. There are a lot of ways to kill. The problem we have in America with kids especially is guns. so lets address that. multiple ways. one being gun regulation. if we can get to a point where kids with guns isnt an issue anymore and they have moved on to making bombs in their bedrooms, we can address that at the time.
