Zombie Lillard is playing like a bum

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  1. AldoTrapani

    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    That has to be Tunchi right?!
     
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    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Oh god another excuse lol

    I remember when his son was born ppl were saying he’s playing bad because he’s staying up late like other star players don’t have newborns lol
     
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    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    He has to be Tunchi right?
     
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    100% body language is a form of communication, sometimes conscious, but more often subconscious. I think the big difference between words and body language is that words typically have a defined meaning that we have all accepted. Yes, shaking your head often means no (or unsure), but again that's a conscious action. What is overwhelming pointed out here are subconscious actions. Even worse, we often mix someone being slower with them not caring. This even happens at the youth level where we assume the person who runs faster or jumps higher cares more than someone who isn't as althetic.

    In the case of Dame, or anyone on here, if we're going to say someone "looks like they don't care." at the very least we should point out the specific actions that are causing one to make such an assessment. Dame "settling" for threes may appear lazy or like he isn't trying, but there are countless other reasons why it may not be happening. I think in general its dangerous to watch someone and think you know why they are doing something or not.
     
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    From the begining of this season Dame plays like 50 mins per game. Most here agreed that squeezing him early im the season is wrong.
    Damian playing can give u options:
    1. He carry this team on his back thru reg season, as he's done before. - Result? Blazers in playoffs with Lillard gased. Sweep.
    2. Lillard playing "medium" in reg ses. Result? He can carry Blazers more in playoffs, but WE CAN'T WIN SHIP WITH HIM ALONE even when he scores 60 every playoff game.
    3. Lillard wait for his team to play on the level that makes his effort useful and for coach to find ways of playing this team or maybe for NO for making some moves.

    What I'm saying is, IF he plays with low energy, it's ok with me. He is smart. We have a shoot to go to the playoffs, b/c west conf is suddenly not that strong. So I prefer him to rest and try to make splash in playoffs than carrying clueless team on his spasm on December.

    It's not Dame. It's team. Team needs to go up. Without it he's effort will be wasted anyway and I prefer him healthy.
     
  6. TorturedBlazerFan

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    So ive said this before, I think at times the whole team looks like theyve never played defense together. The reason why I said that is they’ll give up a 3 or a layup and two or three of them will stand their and either point at each other or look like I thought that was your guy. I dont know the depths of their practice routines, or what not but there are times that the teams body language does come off like they arent sure what they need to be doing.

    Id agree it can be dangerous to make those assumptions, but part of communication is assumptions, we are speaking a language where if you went to a dictionary several of the words we use in every sentence has 2,3,4+ definitions. Of course I dont know whats going through the players minds, but I think its ok to see their body language, there interactions and at least say that in your opinion things look a certain way. Just like going to a book club and talking about a book you’ll find multiple people got different things from the same book.

    Its my opinion obviously but where I and others make the mistake is when we take our assumptions and our subjective opinions and state them as facts.
     
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  7. BlazerWookee

    BlazerWookee UNTILT THE DAMN PINWHEEL!

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    Noob? Not so much. He's been doing the same thing since the OLive days.

    Transparent phony...
     
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    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    You’re making this way harder than it needs to be.



    watch the video. Lillard is either standing around or casually walking in nearly every play - offense or defense. I think it’s safe to assume that standing around whenever you don’t have the ball doesn’t send a signal to your teammates to play hard.

    He gets beat numerous times on defense in the video and he’s not even in a defensive position. He’s going under screens or just watching as his man blows by. His help defense is non-existent. He was playing far better and more energetic defense last year.

    he is supposed to be our LEADER. If your team is playing with low energy, that’s exactly when you expect your LEADER to step it up. Not only is he not leading our team in effort, Dame is giving less effort than anyone on the team.
     
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    I actually fell for the click bait. It was just so blatant i was sure there had to be twist. But no. The OP was just as stupid as the title.
     
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    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    I just want to know how Lillard is shooting 35% from 3 this season?
     
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    hoopsjock Well-Known Member

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    Well he's shooting 36.2% so you don't have to figure out a fake question.

    Plus his career average is 36.8% so you can't say he's fallen off or having a down year.
     
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    AldoTrapani Well-Known Member

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    Man he’s barley above league average tho which is about 35.5%... one thing that’s for sure is his reputation as this assassin from 3 is overrated
     
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    Lillard has always played his best post December. He is smart to know first 25% of games in a season are not more important than last 25% where he has historically post all star break played his best
     
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    Oh wow. The first person to actually admit he isn’t playing 100% while he’s walking around for half the game. The Lillard cult is making some progress!
     
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    “yOurE StOoPid”

    thanks for contributing to the discussion.
     
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    Cugel The epitome of mediocrity

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    Dame takes some shots that aren't ideal. Constantly tries to draw fouls even if it means putting up garbage from three.

    Trys to dribble out of way too many double teams instead of passing before the trap is in place.

    He's in a funk right now but I don't think it will last. IMHO, he thinks he has to carry the team.
     
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    that’s a big part of it. He’s not playing as team oriented as he did in the past. When LaMarcus first left, Lillard was the epitome of a good leader. His energy was high every game, he shared the ball and trusted his team and they developed well.

    this time, with the new roster, he is the opposite. He is not trusting his team. It took him like 20 games to successfully complete a lob pass to Hassan. He doesn’t let Mario run the pg when he clearly wants to. He wasn’t getting Hood enough looks. He isn’t getting people the ball where they want it. He’s just doing pick and roll / hero ball every play, or he stands around.

    I get that he’s elite in the pick and roll and great enough at hero ball that it works. But Playing team offense takes way less energy than hero ball. The reason he’s tired is bc he isn’t trusting his team.
     
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    Sure, if you disregard volume and the defense played on shooters.
     
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    I mean are you just going to ignore that he has a career high 7.5 assists this year and last game when you said he played like a "bum" he had 11 assists. But no keep ignoring that cause it doesn't fit with your "he doesn't share the ball or trust his teammates as much" theory.
     
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    OP means "Original Post". Never said anything about you personally.
    By the way you forgot the apostrophe in "yOu'rE". You also spelled "sTupId" wrong.
    The only thing worth contributing to this discussion would be to point out exactly how unintelligent this conversation is. I don't have time to take it any further.
     

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