Zombie Lillard is playing like a bum

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  1. Blazers1977

    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    assists aren’t synonymous with trusting your teammates or sharing the ball. They mean something, but not what you’re pretending they mean.

    people who dribble more and have the ball more tend to get more assists. That’s why he is getting half an assist more this year. Woopdido.
     
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    Dame's potential assists per game:

    2019-20: 13.1

    2018-19: 12.3

    2017-18: 12.7

    2016-17: 11.9

    That literally proves that Dame is slightly better this year at setting up his teammates for potential baskets. Anyone who claims he isn't sharing the ball as much is flat out wrong.

    Dame's usage rate during those seasons:

    2019-20: 28.2

    2018-19: 29.3

    2017-18: 30.6

    2016-17: 31.5

    What does this mean? The data proves that Dame actually is sharing the ball with his teammates more DESPITE having the ball LESS thus completely fucking your stupid theory right up the ass.
     
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    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    “I never said anything about YOU, I just said your FACE is ugly.”

    Is that you, Bart Simpson?
     
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    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    Nah. Your comment is just statistically challenged and you make way too much out of small <1% factoids. Getting half an assist more doesn’t mean much of anything.

    you also didn’t factor in that he’s playing more minutes.
     
  5. SIeepwalker

    SIeepwalker The lone sane poster

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    Smh.

    And look at who liked that post. the shit takes squad
     
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    Oh no, poor @Blazers1977 had his shitty ass theory completely blown out of the water and doesn't understand that there are stats for pretty much anything.
     
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    It's clown show crew.
     
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    I guess but he’s overrated from 3 to me. He’s barley above league average
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I bet you opposing coaches and scouts don’t want him to shoot em though. Bet they run special sets defensively to keep him from getting them off.
     
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    Damian should really take the rest of the season off.
     
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    Only amateur NBA analysts rely on stats to this degree. Why don’t you got to Vegas and bet your house? You’ve got it all figured out.
     
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    What's your excuse for CJ?
    He tends to dribble the ball more than anyone else in the NBA, but he's a far below average facilitator.



    These are all valid criticisms of Dame - and have been for a couple seasons now.

    I would hope that a coach would be in his ear addressing these... but I haven't seen any significant changes in approach with his 'heat check' shots at inappropriate times.
     
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    You mean to tell me teams have literally designed defenses to defend Lillard on the three point line and his ability to drive? Really?
     
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    It's funny how many times "Defense" is being used as an excuse for Lillards shitshow in certain games, Ecspessialy in the Playoffs, because Lillard is the only Player in NBA history who get's guarded. Maybe we should question his BBall IQ if he knows that the trap is coming but he still runs Pnr after Pnr after Pnr? Do you guys realize that other superstars get the same treatment and they still play like Superstars?? It's comical how Dame get's a pass every time
     
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    Post number 41 and someone finally brings up the back spasms, thank you... I've thought for awhile that it must still be bothering him to some degree. Not that he's playing poorly, his assists are a career high.

    Whatever the case, Lillard is literally the last player in the league I'd ever accuse of being lazy, and literally the last player in the league I'd ever accuse of not caring about winning. That's just such a stupid statement.
     
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    you mean to tell me that every single team in the league faces different defenses for their star player, and this isn’t unique to Dame?
     
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    why? What has Lillard ever done that shows he works harder than other players making 200 million?

    How do you know he cares more about winning than every other player in the league? Has he ever even raised his voice after losing once? How many other superstars are trying to simultaneously launch rap careers during their prime?

    this is just blind loyalty. Dame gets a pass for everything.
     
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    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    Blah, blah, blah, somethin’, somethin, bad Lillard, somethin’, somethin’, blah, blah, blah........
     
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    Blazers1977 Well-Known Member

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    Dame is a better passer than CJ. Dame is better than CJ overall. None of this changes the fact that Dame’s ENERGY is undeniably low.
     
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    ok now....I use stats all the time, but I try to look at the context of stats because often, even most times, that context is critical to understanding stats

    in the case of Lillard' 3 point shooting, there is some critical context that has to be applied; without which there's plenty of ignorance. That being the assisted FG rate on 3 pointers. Look at it for Portland:

    Skal Labissière 1.000
    Mario Hezonja 1.000
    Anthony Tolliver 1.000
    Nassir Little 1.000
    Zach Collins 1.000
    Kent Bazemore .938
    Gary Trent .909
    Carmelo Anthony .895
    Rodney Hood .886
    Anfernee Simons .658
    CJ McCollum .657
    Damian Lillard .190

    that's just fucked-up. And it's not fucked-up because Dame is choosing free-lance everything. It's fucked-up because Dame has made the jobs of Olshey and Stotts easier by giving them both plenty of ass-cover. But they don't do anything to make Dame's job easier. Olshey has refused to find Dame another player who can consistently facilitate offense and create spot-up and open looks for Dame. And Stotts has failed to design offensive options for Dame that don't require him to create almost all of it on his own.

    this season is an extreme example; the previous two seasons Dame's rate of assisted three's has hovered around 45%. Even then, it should have been higher

    I just took the time to check the top-20 three point shooters, percentage-wise, in the NBA. The results are that 19 of those 20 players had 3pt assisted FG rates above 80%, and 15 of 19 had a rate above 90%

    Dame shoots 36.2% and 19% of his three's are assisted. Lebron shoots 36.5% and 47.5% of his threes are assisted. Harden shoots 36.1% and 17% of his three's are assisted. See a pattern there?

    so when I see somebody hammer Dame for his "low" percentage without adding any context, I think they are operating from a perspective of ignorance...sorry
     

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