If our justice system was like this in regular trials with jurors stating publicly they are not impartial and have already come to a conclusion before the trial starts...wow
No it isn’t. The Constitution could have made it a judicial process by having a trial before the Supreme Court. Instead, the founders made it a political process by having the Senate hold the trial and decide the case.
Ha, they'd essentially be doing away with the "jury selection" process....but we'd still get those damn notices that we've been chosen for jury duty.
The funny aspect is that these people are all attorneys and know every alley in the path to a credible circumstance.. No wonder it's a FUBAR.
Yeah, it's possible but I don't think it's gonna be some sort of perpetual thing. Trump is far from the norm and we've never had a POTUS so disgusting as he.
So for now on every person selected for jury duty should just pubicly state they are not impartial and have made up their minds before the trial starts. The senate can do it, why can't everyone else? Why should we, as citizens take seriously the best interest of justice when those we hold at the highest standard refuse to do so. Why should we be obligated and not them. They too took an oath, "(to)do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God." If they refuse to uphold their oath...why should we uphold ours?
I really hope that's the case, but this did nothing to bring both parties closer together. There's nothing but anger and bitterness on both sides over this whole process.
This. I consider myself in the middle, and have known how evil Trump is. But.. I had no idea how much unhealthy hatred could come out of the dems in their quest for power. The extreme hatred has blinded them on so many levels and issues. They have no clue how much damage they have done to themselves, while trying to hurt others. Trump maybe evil, but the dem party is a complete joke at this time. The dems has self destructed.
Well, the answer to that will be in the election. You might be right, you might be wrong. My logic says that exposing the GOP has done themselves a whole lot more damage than the democrats, but who knows at this point? The fact that the GOP yells "no deficit", increases the deficit and still gets elected over and over again has me wondering what is happening. At the end of the day, if the GOP and Trump are elected again - it is time to stop pointing fingers at the politicians...
Elizabeth Warren trolled Judge Roberts, posing a question, he had to read allowed, about how this trial will make hurt his and the supreme courts credibility, in presiding over a trial where no evidence or witnesses are allowed. The look on his face after reading it is priceless. “At a time when large majorities of Americans have lost faith in government, does the fact that the chief justice is presiding over an impeachment trial in which Republican senators have thus far refused to allow witnesses or evidence contribute to the loss of legitimacy of the chief justice, the Supreme Court and the Constitution?”
And if they go further to the left with socialism and wanting larger gov and more taxes, they will reelect Trump. he is in office because several mid western states would accept Hillary Clinton has President. And they would not of elected Bernie Sanders either. The other candidate from Maryland had a better shot a beating Trump, imo.
It's going to take a president with great leadership and some cleansing of congress before this country is close to being more unified. The clown in the oval office will never bring the country together as he doesn't care and it's not in his DNA. Hopefully the cleansing begins in November.
I disagree as i think thinks reflects badly on the republicans more than the dems for not even attempting to have a real trial. They could have saved some face by allowing some witnesses as that's what 75% of the people wanted and that's a large part of the voting population they snubbed their nose at. We will see come November. trump already thinks he can do whatever he wants and this just opens the door for him to push the limits even further, especially if were to somehow get reelected.
That’s all we’ll and good, but it’s totally at odds with the Dems’ position during the Clinton impeachment trial. From Politico: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.po...20/01/30/joe-biden-impeachment-witness-109730 Not too surprisingly, it all depends on which party has control of the Senate.
The Clinton trial over 20 years ago. Different people many changes and different ideals than back then. Were there not witnesses called? Did it not take the appearance of a real trial? Was every vote pretty much a direct party line vote. Essentially it sounds like what you are is that every murder trial should be the same. It was well known what the outcome was going to be as the pubs were very open about it. I was thinking they would at least try and camoflauge thir actions. I'm a registered independent and often agreed with some republican ideals, but this is not the same party i grew up with and with a president like trump it has made it even much worse.
I don’t think there were any live witnesses called. There was video of depositions including ones by Clinton and Lewinsky. I don’t think it looked much like a real trial. A few Republicans crossed over to vote for acquittal. I don’t think there was as much partisan crap or a true willingness to kick him out of office over lying about a BJ. Embarrassment was enough. I’m not a Republican either I haven’t been able to stomach the party since the Tea Party days.
Another miscalculation by the Dems. All this effort and they wouldn't even get the Presidency if they won? How did they not realize that?
