OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. ABM

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    Hmmm...I don't know if I'd trust my life to masks from Dollar Tree....most likely from, uh, China.
     
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    The 200 masks I bought via the Walmart website were sold by and from https://www.mckesson.com/
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Sounds like a much better choice. But, 200??
     
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    Yes. 100 per box for $18. Amazon was already sold out. So I figured why not get two boxes.
     
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    BREAKING: Man in his 70s becomes second U.S. death from coronavirus at the same hospital near Seattle, as New York City confirms its first infected patient and nationwide cases hits 74
    • Man in his 70s becomes second person to die of coronavirus in the U.S. on Saturday
    • Officials said man was at EvergreenHealth hospital in King County, Washington, and had underlying health conditions at the time of his illness
    • On Saturday, the White House confirmed a woman in King County was the first to die of coronavirus in the US
    • Washington state as revealed five people had tested positive for coronavirus in the area
    • New York's first positive coronavirus case was announced Sunday by Gov. Andrew Cuomo
    • A woman in her late 30s contracted the virus while traveling abroad in Iran and is reportedly in Manhattan
    • There are at least 74 cases of coronavirus in the US and five 'unknown origin' cases
    • Rhode Island's state-run health agency announced the first positive test of coronavirus - a patient in their 40s who had traveled to Italy in mid-February
    • Italy, where hundreds of people have been infected with coronavirus, has seen the worst outbreak in Europe
    • An unknown origin case in Chicago was reported Sunday and the patient being treated in isolation
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...virus-case-woman-contracted-disease-Iran.html
     
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    Read that they think there are likely 300-500 infected in Washington alone. Just haven’t gotten all tested or haven’t gone to Dr.
     
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    I'd rather have panic than a virus. YMMV.

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    Japan is lying also because they don't want to stop the Olympics.
     
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    Worried families blast Washington nursing home where one man has died from coronavirus and 50 more are ill for 'not testing patients and ignoring phone calls' - as it emerges facility has history of failing to control the spread of illness
    • A nursing facility where the second man in the US to die of coronavirus was a patient has been blasted by the families of residents
    • Distraught relatives say they have been kept in the dark over the situation and ill relatives lie untested
    • Bonnie Holstad said her calls to Life Care center in Kirkland, Washington, have gone unanswered as she is desperate for news that her husband Ken is okay after he had a cough
    • Bridget Parkhill said her elderly mother, 77, has been sick for several days, but has not been taken to hospital
    • Pat Herrick said she is concerned her 89-year-old mother could die if the virus spreads further at the facility
    • The facility has a history of failing to control the spread of illness
    • In 2019, a state investigation blasted Life Care after two influenza outbreaks swept the care home, affecting 17 residents and seven employees
    • Two individuals - a resident and an employee at the care home - had been diagnosed with the infection on Saturday. More than 50 staff and residents were also showing some symptoms
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...an-died-coronavirus-not-testing-patients.html
     
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    Lindsey Graham said Trump knows more about the virus than the so called scientists, his word, at Center for Disease Control and National Institute of Health. In the midst of a gathering epidemic, the most stupid ignorant president in history can't bring himself to say listen to your doctor. He is god and knows better. People are going to fucking die because when they or their family get sick they will listen to Trump instead of their doctor. Repeat, people are going to fucking die because when they or their family get sick they will listen to Trump instead of their doctor.

    Dr. Fauci was gagged so Pence was on three Sunday shows and the liberal media was too polite to ask him about the absolutely preventable HIV epidemic that occurred in his state because he denied science.
     
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    Hey, it's any port in a storm. This means that masks from China are better than no masks at all.
     
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    Lindsay Graham continues to prove that he is way more stupid than any of us have previously given him credit for being stupid.
     
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    I'm sure they work as designed.

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    How Does the Coronavirus Compare With the Flu?
    By Denise Grady
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    As new cases appear on the West Coast, some — including the president — are comparing it to the seasonal flu. Here’s a close look at the differences.

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    A coronavirus patient and a health worker inside the Jinyintan Hospital in Wuhan, China.Credit...China Daily/Reuters
    Is this new coronavirus really a serious danger? Doesn’t the flu kill more people?

    As the United States recorded its first coronavirus death on Saturday — and as other cases popped up in people without known risks on the West Coast — Americans wondered how to measure this new threat against a more familiar foe: influenza.

    President Trump, a self-described germophobe, said on Wednesday he was amazed to learn that tens of thousands of Americans died from the flu each year, contrasting that number with the 60 or so known to be infected with the coronavirus. On Friday, Mr. Trump accused the news media and Democrats of exaggerating the dangers of the virus.

    “The flu kills people,” Mick Mulvaney, the acting White House chief of staff, said on Wednesday. “This is not Ebola. It’s not SARS, it’s not MERS. It’s not a death sentence.”

    To many public health officials, that argument misses the point.

    Yes, the flu is terrible — that’s exactly why scientists don’t want another contagious respiratory disease to take root. If they could stop the seasonal flu, they would. But there may yet be a chance to stop the coronavirus.

    In many ways, the flu is the best argument for throwing everything at the coronavirus. Here’s a closer look at the similarities and differences.

    Which virus is deadlier?
    The coronavirus seems to be more deadly than the flu — so far.

    On average, seasonal flu strains kill about 0.1 percent of people who become infected. The 1918 flu had an unusually high fatality rate, around 2 percent. Because it was so contagious, that flu killed tens of millions of people.

    Early estimates of the coronavirus death rate from Wuhan, China, the epicenter of the outbreak, have been around 2 percent. But a new report on 1,099 cases from many parts of China, published on Friday in The New England Journal of Medicine, finds a lower rate: 1.4 percent.

    The coronavirus death rate may be even lower, if — as most experts suspect — there are many mild or symptom-free cases that have not been detected.

    The true death rate could turn out to be similar to that of a severe seasonal flu, below 1 percent, according to an editorial published in the journal by Dr. Anthony S. Fauci and Dr. H. Clifford Lane, of the National Institute of Allergy and Infectious Diseases, and Dr. Robert R. Redfield, director of the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

    But even a disease with a relatively low death rate can take a huge toll if enormous numbers of people catch it. As of Sunday, there were about 87,000 coronavirus cases and 3,000 deaths. This week, for the first time, the number of new cases outside China exceeded the number within the country.

    Which virus is more contagious?
    So far, the new coronavirus seems to be more contagious than most strains of the flu, and roughly as contagious as strains that appear in pandemic flu seasons.

    Each person with the coronavirus appears to infect 2.2 other people, on average. But the figure is skewed by the fact that the epidemic was not managed well in the beginning, and infections soared in Wuhan and the surrounding province. As an epidemic comes under control, the reproduction number, as it’s called, will fall.

    By comparison, the figure for the seasonal flu is roughly 1.3. The reproduction number for the flu of 1918 was about the same as that of the new coronavirus, perhaps higher, but that was before modern treatments and vaccines were available.

    In both flu and the illness caused by the coronavirus, people may be contagious before symptoms develop, making it difficult or even impossible to control the spread of the virus. Nobody knows how many people infected with the coronavirus have only very mild symptoms or none at all.

    Who is most at risk from infection?
    Both the coronavirus and influenza are most dangerous to people who are older than 65, or have chronic illnesses or a weak immune system.

    Death rates among men infected with the coronavirus in China, particularly those in their late 40s and older, have exceeded those among women, a pattern not seen in the seasonal flu. The reason for the discrepancy is not known, although Chinese men do smoke more, often resulting in compromised lung function.

    There seems to be another important difference: The flu appears far more dangerous to children, particularly very young ones, who can become severely ill. Children infected with the new coronavirus tend to have mild or no symptoms.

    The flu is also especially dangerous for pregnant women, who can become severely ill from it. Whether the new coronavirus poses as serious a threat to pregnant women is not known.

    Which virus makes you sicker?
    As of Feb. 22, in the current season there were at least 32 million cases of flu in the United States, 310,000 hospitalizations and 18,000 flu deaths, according to the C.D.C. Hospitalization rates among children and young adults this year have been unusually high.

    There would be even more illnesses and deaths if there were no flu vaccine. Most people recover in less than two weeks, and sometimes in just days.

    By contrast, about 70 people in the United States have been infected with the new coronavirus, and there has been one death. There are no treatments or vaccines for the coronavirus, only supportive care for infected people.

    Most cases of coronavirus infection are not severe, but some people do become quite sick. Data from the largest study of patients to date, conducted in China, suggests that of coronavirus patients receiving medical attention, 80 percent had mild infections, about 15 percent had severe illnesses, and 5 percent were critical.

    The first symptoms, fever and cough, are similar to that of the flu, so the diseases can be hard to tell apart without a test to identify the virus. Pneumonia is common among coronavirus patients, even among those whose cases are not severe.

    Experts think there may also be many people with no symptoms at all, or such mild ones that they never bother to seek medical attention. Because those cases have not been counted, it’s not possible now to know the real proportion of mild versus severe cases.

    Antibody tests, which can determine whether someone has ever been infected, may eventually help to establish how many people had mild or asymptomatic coronavirus infections.

    Can people become immune to the coronavirus?
    After viral infections, people generally develop antibodies in their blood that will fight off the virus and protect them from contracting it again. It’s reasonable to assume that people who have had the new coronavirus will become immune to it.

    But it is not known how long that immunity will last. With other coronaviruses, which cause the common cold, immunity can wane.

    There are vaccines for the seasonal flu, of course, and these induce at least partial immunity to influenza.

    What treatments are available?
    There is no approved antiviral drug for the coronavirus, though several are being tested. Doctors can recommend only the usual remedies for any viral illness: rest, medicine to reduce pain and fever, and fluids to avoid dehydration.

    Coronavirus patients with pneumonia may also need oxygen, and a ventilator if breathing trouble worsens.

    For the flu, however, there are four prescription medicines. All work best if they are taken within a day or two of when symptoms start.

    They’re not miracle cures: They can lessen the severity of the illness and shorten its course by a day or so, and they may lower the risk of serious complications.

    The drugs are also recommended for people who have been exposed to a flu patient, to try to prevent the illness.

    The flu, like the coronavirus illness, can also cause pneumonia and breathing trouble. Anyone who becomes short of breath needs medical attention quickly.

    Can I get vaccinated?
    An experimental vaccine for the coronavirus may be ready for testing in humans within a few months, but will take much longer, at least a year or two, to become available for widespread use.

    Flu vaccines, on the other hand, are widely available and generally 40 percent to 60 percent effective, which means they will reduce cases by that amount in a population that has been vaccinated, compared with one that has not.

    The vaccine for the current season falls into that range, according to the C.D.C., which said on Feb. 21 that people who have not been vaccinated should still get the shot, because the flu season is ongoing.

    Experts have been urging people to get the flu shot for all the usual reasons. But now there’s another: If there is a coronavirus outbreak in the United States, hospitals will need all the beds, equipment and staff they can muster.

    It will be important not to have those resources taken up by patients with flu that could have been prevented.

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    Will the coronavirus go away when the weather warms?
    Mr. Trump has said repeatedly that the coronavirus will retreat as weather warms, just as influenza does. In fact, because this is a new virus, there is no information about how the weather might affect it.

    Even if the virus were to diminish in the spring, it might rebound later in the fall, as the weather cools. This is a pattern often seen in severe flu seasons.

    Containment is becoming less likely, because of the contagiousness of the virus, the possibility that people can spread it before they have symptoms and the increasing number of outbreaks around the world.

    The cases in California, Oregon and Washington State without known links to overseas travel, reported on Friday, may be a warning sign that the new coronavirus has already begun to circulate.

    Reporting was contributed by Gina Kolata and Knvul Sheikh.

    • Updated Feb. 26, 2020
      • What is a coronavirus?
        It is a novel virus named for the crownlike spikes that protrude from its surface. The coronavirus can infect both animals and people and can cause a range of respiratory illnesses from the common cold to more dangerous conditions like Severe Acute Respiratory Syndrome, or SARS.
      • How do I keep myself and others safe?
        Washing your hands frequently is the most important thing you can do, along with staying at home when you’re sick.
      • What if I’m traveling?
        The C.D.C. has warned older and at-risk travelers to avoid Japan, Italy and Iran. The agency also has advised against all nonessential travel to South Korea and China.
      • Where has the virus spread?
        The virus, which originated in Wuhan, China, has sickened more than 80,000 people in at least 33 countries, including Italy, Iran and South Korea.
      • How contagious is the virus?
        According to preliminary research, it seems moderately infectious, similar to SARS, and is probably transmitted through sneezes, coughs and contaminated surfaces. Scientists have estimated that each infected person could spread it to somewhere between 1.5 and 3.5 people without effective containment measures.
      • Who is working to contain the virus?
        World Health Organization officials have been working with officials in China, where growth has slowed. But this week, as confirmed cases spiked on two continents, experts warned that the world was not ready for a major outbreak.
    https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/29/...8_jJBvCrWeVozrq0Tv1iqjS1Ve5qagCv99gU1VK_IBflw
     
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    Watch, some funny stuff but also some good information.

     
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    Wait so if all of trumps cult members follow his direction on how to handle this virus...
     
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    Coronavirus cases 'will surge in their thousands by NEXT WEEK' and three 'critical' weeks were lost in containing the spread because CDC tests failed
    • Dr Matt McCarthy, who works at New York-Presbyterian Hospital, says coronavirus cases will surge into the thousands by next week
    • He also claims he doesn't have the tools to properly care for patients because of the lack of coronavirus tests being made available to hospitals
    • Health officials have been scrambling to get their own coronavirus testing kits up and running after getting stuck with faulty tests from the federal government
    • Scott Gottlieb, who is the former FDA commissioner said three critical weeks were lost in trying to contain the spread of coronavirus in the U.S. because of the faulty tests
    • It comes as New York Gov Andrew Cuomo confirmed on Sunday that a healthcare worker in her 30s was the first confirmed case in the state
    • The total number of U.S. cases has now soared to 89 as authorities confirmed that the first two people had died in Washington state after contracting coronavirus
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...s-coronavirus-cases-surge-thousands-week.html
     

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