Politics Super Tuesday

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  1. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Older people vote; that's why we rule. Power to the geezers!!
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Yeah but the Coronavirus is coming for ya. Only the young people might be alive by the time the election happens in November.
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    I live in a hermetically sealed bubble.
     
  4. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    Equating not voting to a vote for Trump is simply twisted logic. It's like lumping everyone who doesn't agree with your opinion in one box. Makes no sense at all. So please don't.

    Trump's corruption or Biden's corruption, either way Americans are screwed. Biden already betrayed and sold out America alongside Obama.

    I won't ever willing vote for either parties corruption.
     
  5. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    You can't differentiate between the two to identify the lesser of two evils? I fail to see what abstaining will do for you. One of them will still become president.
     
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  6. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    There is no such thing as the lesser of two evils, it is a myth.

    The republican swamp or the democrat swamp. It's still swamp.

    Biden will go straight to work for corporations and billionaires, same as Trump is doing now. Every president elected after Jimmy Carter has sold America out to wall street and the elite class.

    I won't vote for corruption.
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    Vehemently disagree, but you seem convinced otherwise. OK.
     
  8. Road Ratt

    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    You are willing to vote for swamp, yet somehow I am in the wrong here. Ok.
     
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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    GhostOfPGA The late great Paul Allen

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    Need to photoshop in Senate and this would be gold
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    That doesn't seem true. Are you saying there's no difference between Hitler (the actual Adolf Hitler, this isn't my nickname for Trump) and Joe Biden?

    It's fine to say "both parties suck," but it's not factually correct to say both parties are the same. They are different on a host of things, like acceptance of gay rights, abortion, access to health care, etc. One issue I had with Bernie Sanders fans in 2016 is that they basically boiled down "liberalism" to "opposing the Trans-Pacific Partnership Agreement," as if racial issues, LGBT+ issues, women's issues, social safety net issues, etc, didn't exist.

    Not that I think you are necessarily a "liberal" or care about liberalism, but the two parties aren't the same even if they both have similar aspects of hypocrisy or dependence on corporate largesse at times. It strikes me as unlikely that neither party aligns better with you on ANY subject, sans Sanders. But maybe that's the case.

    I prefer Sanders to Biden, but I much prefer Biden to Trump. Not because I think Biden doesn't have any concerning aspects, but because he's more likely to be on the right side of social issues and issues that help the poor and middle class. Not as good as Sanders on many of them, but as much Congress would allow either Biden or Sanders to actually do.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    C'mon...you don't see any difference between Biden and Trump?
     
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    Deep breath, here I go...

    This is ridiculous. I'm not trying to be a dick here, it's nothing against you in particular (won't be the last time I say that in this post), but you sound like some hippie from the 70's. Damn the man, damn the establishment, dude. It's telling that the "passionate" Bernie supporters are vastly younger people. People who don't yet have a good grasp of the world. Who are still in college, naive, full of silly ideas and cum.

    Biden represents common sense, someone able to compromise (and NO, that's not a bad word in politics), moderates (who are most of the country BTW), people who would rather have a country come together instead of another four years with a president who's so far on one side of the spectrum that he alienates the vast majority of the population, and lastly and certainly not least, he represents someone who can actually beat Trump.

    That last point alone should make you support him. Sanders I think has no shot of that if he ends up being the candidate. You saw it last night- his "passionate" supporters are loud but they're not a huge portion of the voters. His "passionate" supporters also didn't seem to be that passionate at the end of the day. Older voters, suburbia, and black voters proved to be much broader and much more passionate for Joe. As soon as they saw that someone who could actually beat Trump in the general election, and someone who's politics they could actually tolerate, had a shot in the primary they flocked to the polls. The results speak for themselves.

    Hopefully for the sake of the country this momentum continues. Or it's four more years of orange.

    Then how, in the name of all that is holy, are you a Sanders fan? Unbelievable how you think he'd bring unity to the country. I'm not trying to be a dick (maybe I'm failing at that), I have nothing against you, but really, I'm actually stunned a single person on earth believes that his radical ideas would unify a single, solitary thing. But I'm glad you're being pragmatic about whoever were to win the primary, unlike -

    Who I'm not even going to bother with. Definitely trying to be a dick here.
     
  14. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    I was thinking he could facilitate change. Clearly this was misguided because his base wasn't nearly as motivated as we were all led to believe. Regardless, I bought what he sold about universal healthcare, immigration reform, free education, etc. Also enjoyed him as a leader who stayed true to his beliefs and never wavered for decades. Those were the tenets that drew me to him, moreso than his anti-establishment stuff.

    I'm hoping people will realize that there are more similarities to Bernie and Biden for their policies than they think. Abstaining from voting in this election is dangerous.
     
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  16. Road Ratt

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    I am saying that the lesser of two evils literally isn't true.

    In my opinion, splitting hairs between two evils doesn't prove the point.

    I am not saying that both parties suck. I am saying both parties are corrupt as f*ck... and that is fact. Both the republicans and democrats literally work for corporations over Americans. The corporatization of our planet is destroying it.

    (Sorry for the language, but it was the only thing that fit that sentence)

    And that is fine for you, as well as anyone else who shares the same opinion.

    I see the corruption in both parties. I can't vote for corruption, never will. I don't like the corporation of America.

    Edit: (Not really, just adding on a thought.)

    I was diagnosed with aspergers 5 1/2 years ago. I went online to learn all about it. Along the way I found out the truth about both the democrats and republicans and how they have been screwing over America for 40 years now. Before then I used to side more with democrats views, though I do agree with republicans on several issues and have never identified as either party. Nowadays I only fight to remove the swamp in congress, from both parties.
     
  17. Hoopguru

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    I'm with you on that!
     
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    I would encourage you to look up the definition of "lesser" followed quickly by "literally".

    At least in your profile you put your location as a "fruitloop daydream"
     
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    The DNC & RNC have one goal in mind. Raise a ton of money and get their guy/gal in the WH.
     
  20. TorturedBlazerFan

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    It makes sense if you see Good and Evil as Binary rather than on a scale.
     

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