OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. Minstrel

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  2. TBpup

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    Then I would suggest contacting the WHO since they were in part who provided the statistics for that. Sure, you can apply an 'if' to almost anything. But instead of 'ifs', actual numbers were supplied.
     
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    Road Ratt King of my own little world

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    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    WHO is not responsible for the misuse of data here.

    34, 239, 124.21, -394.

    Just because they are numbers doesn't make them meaningful.

    barfo
     
  5. Chris Craig

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    Rice? Really
     
  6. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    The world comes to crap quite often
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm thinking that more than anything, that was a date before this really ramped up. (mar. 9th)... now it's grown exponentially.

    Not necessarily the source, but the date. I'd like to see this for a more recent date (the last couple of days).
     
  8. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    Somewhere between 11 1/2 months to 17 1/2 months. This is per Dr. Anthony Fauci's last news conference when he discussed the subject about two weeks ago.
     
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    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

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    I believe EL PRESIDENTE is Asian.
    My wife is Asian and eats rice three times a day virtually every day.
    When I was a kid, my mother would serve rice with chicken gravy on top but I can eat it along with my wife's ethnic food. Virtually all Asians live on rice three times a day or every chance, depending on circumstances. North Koreans probably get it the least often. Everytime we throw cooked rice away we think of those starving North Koreans.
     
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    Are you sure? Seems when i get it a bunch of people around me get it as well.
     
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    So the first registered case of this Virus was in November in China. The First case in the US was Jan 21st.
    But it took until the 18th of March to get Providence medical center "Up and running" for testing and at this point they only have between 2000-3000 tests that they can administer at around 500 a day. That pretty much means they will run out of tests by the beginning of next week.
    By the way. They don't have enough masks, gowns and face shields to test 2000 people and won't have those for at least another month so really it doesn't matter anyway.
    https://www.opb.org/news/article/oregon-covid-19-testing-capacity-starts-ramping-up/
     
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    Because I am ready to accept I have been misinformed, I looked up Idaho. The Idaho Statesman ran an editorial criticizing governor for not closing schools or ordering business closures. As of last Sunday, the official state web site said people should go about their business as usual, although it might have changed since then. True, low population inland states have not been as hard hit as high population coastal states. All due respect, seems a good idea to use this time to prepare rather than ostracizing trans people.

    Senator Rand Paul opposed the bill, saying he wants to be sure aid goes only to people, not immigrants. Not a slip, be repeated people not immigrants several times. Seig heil!
     
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    Pretty sure you were the one filming.
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Thought this was interesting...



    Why 'Wet Markets' Persisted In China Despite Disease And Hygiene Concerns

    ARI SHAPIRO, HOST:

    China is stopping outbound flights, trains and bus rides from the city of Wuhan as the virus that's thought to have started there continues to spread. There are more than 500 confirmed cases of this strain of the coronavirus, which can cause severe respiratory illnesses. Already, there have been 17 deaths in China.

    AILSA CHANG, HOST:

    Chinese authorities say the outbreak likely began in an open food market in Wuhan. These are markets known as wet markets. And health officials specifically suspect the virus came from wild animals they say were being sold illegally at the Wuhan market. That market was shut down on January 1.

    Zhenzhong Si is a research associate at the University of Waterloo in Ontario, Canada. He focuses on food security and safety in China. Welcome.

    ZHENZHONG SI: Thank you.

    CHANG: So first, for people who have never been to China, can you just describe what we're talking about here? What is a wet market?

    SI: Yeah, of course. Actually, wet markets is the predominant food retail outlets for fresh produce and meat in Chinese cities. A large city typically has a few hundred wet markets. Actually, the Chinese government has been trying to convert many of the wet markets in cities to supermarkets. They tried this in 2002 but failed just because they were no longer able to provide fresh food at a cheaper price, so they lost their original customers.

    CHANG: And there are live animals at these markets, right?

    SI: Yeah. Yeah. In many of these wet markets, there are live animals. However, after the 2003 SARS outbreak, there has been some crackdown on selling live birds - live poultry, including chicken and ducks as well. So in many wet markets in large cities, you probably wouldn't find many live animals, but you can still find them in some of them...

    CHANG: OK.

    SI: ...Like this Wuhan market that you just mentioned.

    CHANG: And besides maybe live birds, what other kind of live animals might have been at this market?

    SI: Oh, there is a photo being circulated since yesterday in Chinese social media, showing the catalog of one store at this market. And you can see from the catalog, they have almost 50 different kinds of species of wild animals being sold. And you can see the price as well. So it's...

    CHANG: Like what kind of wild animals?

    SI: For example, hedgehogs and peacocks and wild rabbits and snakes, deer; crocodiles as well. Many of these wild animals, they're not necessarily caught in the wild - right? - so they can be farmed animals. They're just exotic food that's not very commonly found.

    CHANG: And why are wild animals so popular as a delicacy in China?

    SI: Eating wild animal is considered a symbol of wealth because they are more rare and expensive. And wild animals is also considered more natural and, thus, nutritious, compared to farmed meat. It's a belief in traditional Chinese medicine that it can boost the immune system, you know? Of course, some people eat wild animals just because they were driven by curiosity.

    CHANG: (Laughter).

    SI: It's really difficult to change the mindset of, you know, eating wild animals is better than eating farmed animals. But it's a common kind of mindset in many parts of China.

    CHANG: So your research looks at food security, food safety in China. What do you think needs to happen maybe to prevent future outbreaks like this? What changes do you think are important?

    SI: Well, certainly, we need better enforcement of policies in wet markets to make sure that there is no food safety risk, especially wild animals and live chicken, for example. However, I want to emphasize that many Chinese municipal governments are actually supporting the development of new wet markets in the city because it's such an important source of fresh produce and meats for the majority of urban residents. It's also a part of the urban lifestyle. Some people argue that it provides a space for socialization, you know, for people to talk to others. And a lot of people enjoy shopping at wet markets compared to supermarkets.

    CHANG: Zhenzhong Si of the University of Waterloo is the co-author of the book "Organic Food And Farming In China: Top-Down And Bottom-Up Ecological Initiatives."
     
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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Settle down. What do you think MERS stands for?

    Middle Eastern Respiratory Syndrome

    Why? Because that's where it originated.
     
  17. yankeesince59

    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    C'mon man...that's not the same...Middle East is a region, not a specific country.

    Trump could have said "the Asian virus" but he specifically and with purpose, and malice, said "Chyna virus"...there's a difference.
     
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    Widely considered to have started in Saudi Arabia. Called MERS. Notice anything different? Possibly?
     
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    So its freakout worthy?

    LOL.
     
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    Its different, but its not freakout worthy.
     

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