OT Coronavirus: America in chaos, News and Updates. One million Americans dead and counting

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  1. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Just like with the Spanish Flu, and German Measles, and the Ebola (river) virus...it's always racism and division that causes people to name illnesses after specific places...
     
  2. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Well, we already had a SARS, so they couldn't call it "Saudi Arabian" Respiratory Syndrome.
     
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    West Niles virus, Lyme Disease, Japanese Encephalitis. There are probably more than that too. It's interesting, and at this point maybe it's time we stop naming virus's and such that way.
     
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  4. ABM

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    Heh, if he called it the Asian virus, then folks like @EL PRESIDENTE , and many others in/from that region would be up in arms. Moreover, so-called "racism" is such an overused term these days. Definitely one of those can't win for losin' charmers.


    BTW, love your usage of, "C'mon, man" It's so...so...Bidenesque. Keep up the great work!
     
  5. PtldPlatypus

    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Wait, he named it after a deceased female profesional wrestler?! That IS malicious!!
     
  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Great points. BTW, the article I had related above regarding "wet" markets was pretty interesting. Naturally, there's a cause and effect attribute to this whole thing.
     
  7. EL PRESIDENTE

    EL PRESIDENTE Username Retired in Honor of Lanny.

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    Great....one of the doctors my fiance worked with on Monday just tested positive.
     
  8. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    This is from an analyst guy I use. He's rather savvy and deep-researches everything he relates on his newsletter. Anyway, thought it was a bit encouraging in these times...


    We can't focus every day on reading the news and saying, "OH MY GOD, THE WORLD IS GOING TO DIE!"

    That is not useful and it's not even true.

    Media companies make money scaring you. Politicians stay in office (or get into office) by assuming the worst case and hoping for the best so they can say, "Look, we did everything we could."

    So ignore that. Also ignore the market. As I said the other day, as long as it's going up or down 5–10% a day, don't invest. There will be opportunities later.

    Is the market cheap? It sure is. $5 trillion in stimulus is going to hit the economy, which is already assuming a worst-case scenario depression, which is not going to happen.

    Listen: Keep people safe. Social distancing is fine. I don't want to get this virus. And I don't want to spread it if I get it. I'm socially distancing.

    But, be reasonable. Be calm. This is the story of your life and you want to make sure you are the hero of your story.

    But it's important to recognize that this pandemic HAS A LIFESPAN MEASURED IN MONTHS and not "forever" as some suggest.

    This virus will run its course and we will face massive stimulus to get the economy back in shape. Chinese stock markets are back to all-time highs, for instance.

    BUT… here is some good news.

    First note: I've seen this list from a few different sources. Some people are claiming it's "fake news."

    So I went and CHECKED EVERY, SINGLE ITEM and can say these are all true positive developments.

    Vaccine development

    An experimental vaccine developed by Moderna, Inc. began the first stage of a clinical trial on Monday, testing on 45 healthy adults in Seattle.

    [Note: People say 12 months of study is needed to prove safety, but my guess is they will figure out how to make this faster.]

    China's new cases plummet

    China has now closed down its last temporary hospital built to handle COVID-19. There are not enough new cases to warrant them.

    [Note: Not sure if this is proof that containment worked, since its lockdown occurred late in the game. Containment DOES reduce transmission, though. BUT… this pandemic has a timeline regardless of containment.]

    Drugs that work

    Doctors in India have successfully treated two Italian patients with COVID-19, administering a combination of drugs — principally Lopinavir and Ritonavir, alongside Oseltamivir and Chloroquine. Several are now suggesting the same medical treatment on a case-by-case basis, globally.
    [Note: Chloroquine is a prescription. I've been taking Lactoferrin as an over-the-counter substitute, but consult your doctor. The basic components come from the same bark. Again, consult your doctor.]

    Antibodies to the rescue
    Researchers at the Erasmus Medical Center claim to have found an antibody that can fend off infection by COVID-19.
    [Note: I looked this up. Previously discovered for SARS and not being tested for COVID.]
    103-year-old recovery

    A 103-year-old Chinese woman has made a full recovery from COVID-19 after being treated for six days in Wuhan, China — becoming the oldest person to beat the disease.
    Stores reopening

    Apple has reopened all 42 of its retail stores in China.
    [Note: Further evidence that the timeline for this pandemic is about three months from beginning to end.]
    Test results in 2 hours

    Cleveland’s MetroHealth Medical Center has developed a COVID-19 test that can now deliver results in just two hours, rather than in a matter of days.
    [Note: True. Question: Why isn't this being used by everyone?]

    South Korea's dramatic drop in new cases
    After its peak of 909 newly reported COVID-19 cases on February 29th, South Korea has now seen a dramatic drop in the number of new cases reported daily.
    [Note: More evidence of a three-month timeline on the pandemic.]

    Mortality rates inflated?
    Experts predict that Italy has seen a higher mortality rate of COVID-19 given its significant aging population, as well as its higher percentage of COVID-19 patients with pre-existing health conditions. This might suggest that COVID-19’s fatality rate may have been slightly more inflated than previously thought for the general population.
    [Note: New cases in Italy seem to be stabilizing the past two–three days.]
    Israeli vaccine development

    More than 50 scientists in Israel are now working to develop a vaccine and antibody for COVID-19, having reported significant breakthroughs in understanding the biological mechanism and characteristics of the novel coronavirus.

    Full recoveries

    Three patients in Maryland who tested positive for COVID-19 have now been reported to have “fully recovered.”
    Isolated virus

    A network of Canadian scientists isolated the COVID-19 virus, which can now be replicated to test diagnostics, treatments, and vaccines.

    Yet another vaccine in the works

    San Diego biotech company Arcturus Therapeutics is developing a COVID-19 vaccine in collaboration with Duke University and National University of Singapore.
    Treatment protocols

    Seven patients who were treated for COVID-19 at Jaipur’s Sawai Man Singh (SFS) Hospital and Delhi’s Safdarjung Hospital in India have recovered. The treatment protocol will be widely scaled to other hospitals.

    Another treatment
    Plasma from newly recovered COVID-19 patients (involving the harvesting of virus-fighting antibodies) holds promise for treating others infected by the virus.
    [Note: Oddly… true. People saying this is “fake news,” but look up Takeda Pharma in Japan].
    “Good news” doesn't mean "ignore bad news"

    But understand:
    1) The pandemic has a timeline
    2) The level of contagion (the "R naught” number) seems to decrease over time. The virus gets weaker after the initial elderly population gets hit with it.
    3) Economies past the peak are moving forward.

    In other words:
    We will survive this, we will move on, we will have vaccines and treatment. We are acting like it’s a worst-case scenario (which is fine), but realize that the fears are probably more used to manipulate than to inform.
     
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  9. yankeesince59

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  10. donkiez

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    We already have a name for this virus. It's called Corona or COVID19. No one was calling if the Chinese Virus until Trump made it a thing. The only reason to call it the Chinese Virus is to promote xenophobia and assign blame.

    https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/20/us/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asian-americans/index.html

    https://time.com/5797836/coronavirus-racism-stereotypes-attacks/
     
  11. illmatic99

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    It's the perpetuation of widespread xenophobia that's the issue. If they started out calling this China Flu from the beginning, fine, but what Trump and his minions are doing now is deliberate. when 99.99999999% of the people and experts call it "coronavirus" and you deliberately emphasize CHINA, it will get his base riled up. It had its purpose and effect, apparently.

    People are getting attacked over it. https://people.com/health/coronavirus-racist-attacks-against-asians/

    Better stay away from your Asian docs too. Fucking morons.
     
  12. yankeesince59

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    It was spelled that way to reflect the way he pronounces "China".
     
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    I can't believe this orange MF still has the support he does from his base. It's incredibly insensitive to say and think it, but this virus will take out much of his supporters. Maybe that's just natural selection at work.

    I just don't think it's the sort of "ethnic cleansing" that he seemed to espouse.
     
  14. yankeesince59

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    Yes, and the COVID19 virus already has a name of its own...did any of those viruses you listed have a similar monicker?...No.

    ... there was absolutely NO reason for Trump to be a complete dick by labeling it otherwise with "malice" towards China.
     
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    Bigger things to worry about people, than Trump pushing buttons on how he labels the virus.

    The focus of some is... well it seems, obsessive.

    Not a Trump support. Not a fan and I think he is a moron on many levels. With that said. I don't hang on his every word like some sheeple.

    My priority in life and as a person who likes to pay attention to politics is to not hang on slang. I pay attention to the economics.

    Some of your guys reaction is exactly what he wants and your reactions are whats letting him win and hold onto his base.


    I mean really. how is that not widely known by now? Yet some of you feed into his behavior and actually promote it by flipping out over every tiny little thing.


    Minimize the reaction and his trolling will be minimized in return.
     
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    ...you're pissing me off again.
     
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    Lol. sorry. So many people get soo pissed off when the truth about things are presented. Even my damn father cant handle the truth.
     
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    Science is going to be what saves us.

    In the past, this president has been very science challenged.

    From his previous anti-vaxxer statements, to windmills causing cancer, global warming, etc.

    There are many examples of people not taking this virus and situation seriously.

    All of his experts are calling it Covid-19.

    I think if Trump were to use the scientific name for this virus it would help with the overall message to take this serious and listen to the experts.
     
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    Now THAT is a good point and well put. I can get behind that.
     
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