Politics Trump Owns Stock in Company that produces Hydroxycloroquine

None of the "shelter in place" orders I've seen (certainly not the California one) prevent people from going outside to exercise. They're just not supposed to go out and meet other people, gather or go to businesses unless it's essential. In California, people have been encouraged to go outside to walk or jog. Exercise and overall fitness is helpful during an epidemic/pandemic.

Anyone who had a mind to exercise before this order is still perfectly capable of doing so. They don't have to sit indoors all day every day.

 

trump brought up suicides and he did so in order to attack the stay at home orders and the closing of businesses. Remember when he wanted to open things up by Easter? so yeah, when you keep mentioning suicide I see a connection to what trump did, but if that offends you, then sorry, I'll withdraw it

and for chrissakes, the stay-at-home orders are not 'sit-on-your-fat-ass-all-day-long' orders. People are walking all over neighborhoods and city blocks and sidewalks and parks. They can do jumping-jacks and calisthenics in their living rooms. If they have stairs they have a stair-master. There are literally millions of sources for exercise at home routines and millions of ways to get cardio workouts. The sedentary lifestyle criticism against stay at home orders...excuse me, question about stay at home orders is hollow in my view

a person that will be a slug at home will be so, with or without stay at home orders. People, even people with health conditions, have some level of responsibility for their own lives, and part of that responsibility is adapting to circumstance

 

I've seen more flabby bellied guys jogging in the last couple of weeks than I ever have.

I'd join them if my knees weren't destroyed.

 

Yet you find people here and all over the place complaining like crazy that people are going outside, and saying we should all be staying inside. How many people just on this site or saying, "stay inside, stay inside". It is a lot more difficult to get a good work out in, at a one-bedroom apartment than at a gym or a basketball court. My "criticism" if you want to call it that, is that it is definitely possible to take it further and people want to, to which I think that's dangerous.

I'm way more likely to exercise well out of the house than in it.

All I'm saying is that there are other dangers involved in these decisions IMO if you believe there isn't then fine. If there aren't any negative effects to it, why don't they just indefinitely shut down all non-essential businesses, and have stay at home orders and social distancing from now on? We all carry virus' with us all the time that going to restaurants, the gyms, basketball games, etc, etc we can spread, and kill people.

 

My wife and I get out for brisk walks 2-3 times a day. It takes some zigging and zagging back and forth across our streets and walking paths in order to maintain a minimum of 6' of separation. We try for more like 20', but sometimes that's not feasible. I suspect that if I had some footage shot overhead from a drone it would kind of resemble a game of Frogger.

 

There are obviously negative economic consequences that make this unsustainable forever. Whether there are negative consequences to heart disease and diabetes is a lot more questionable.

 

what...?
Do you mean whether stay at home orders have negative consequences to heart disease and diabetes?

 

Yes, whether "don't go out to meet people but do go out to exercise by yourself" orders have negative consequences to heart disease and diabetes.

 

Two brief points

1. I wrote clinical study protocols. That was my job. There have been no completed clinical study protocols for Hydroxychloroquine. Due to lack of testing we can't even be sure everyone supposedly treated in this anecdote had COVID-19. And since about 80 percent recover without hospitalization, with no control group no way to tell if it worked better than placebo. Reports are some people were taken off drug when they became too sick or developed serious adverse effects, and those people just weren't counted. Absolutely unscientific if true.

2. Trump cares for two things, his ego and his wealth. He might make money from Hydroxychloroquine but most of all he wants to proclaim himself as the man who saved Americans from the foreign virus. He is completely ignorant, even suggested antibiotics (they don't work for viruses!) in his desperate effort to be seen as savior.

 

I'm sorry you can't see what I see that's happening.

 

Yes, WTF does it take? Murdering someone on Fifth Avenue? What?

 

Antibiotics? Are you kidding me? I knew he was dumb. I knew he was incredibly dumb, but I had no idea that he was that dumb. This is positive proof that he has someone to help him get dressed because I believe he'd get his shoes on the wrong feet and not be able to tie the shoe laces. This guy is somewhere below an IQ level of 70. 100 is average.
He didn't need to make out a false claim of bone spurs. The military won't take anyone with an IQ lower than 70. He could relax and have sex with all the loose women he wanted by providing the cash. Then he's only worry would be catching VD and not a bullet like the rest of us had to dodge. The Son of a Bitch.

 

Trump just tweeted that this is a very smart virus, it even outsmarted antibiotics.

Honestly not a Saturday Night Live skit.

 

That's the thing. I see both sides. Just not 100% for or anti either one. It's called objectivity.

 

https://www.physiciansweekly.com/hy...ycin-for-covid-19-new-clinical-trial-results/
Hydroxychloroquine /azithromycin for COVID-19: New Clinical Trial Results

This forwarded to me from a Doctor:

From a French study (of course small and early, but encouraging results) regarding the use of hydroxychlorowquine, hydroxychloroquine with azithromycin, and a control group. For those who don't like it, yell at the French doctors instead of me. All heck, yell at me if that's what it takes to make you feel better.

 

No, it's called wearing your blinders.
If you lived in WWII Germany would you be saying that the Nazis and the Jews both had good points? No, the Nazis insisted on their blinders.

 

I would be more concerned on why so many are against a drug that has been vetted since the 50s, that’s cheap, and only requires a 5 day therapeutic treatment of 400-600mg per day.

My theory is 2 parts. 1.) TDS is real, 2.) Big Pharma would lose trillions if this treatment is successful.

 

This thread takes the cake. news comes out that Trump cant really profit off of the amount he owns and it doesn't have a patent.

But yet. Those who post this info, and stick to the facts are called trump apologists...


The epidome of what is wrong with so many things. ..

Soooo many closed minds to rational thought and common sense. The incredible ability to tie one thing to another with nothing but imagination holding it together....

 

HOLY SHIT!!! I spotted him first!!!!!

A SUPER RARE Mags Sighting!!!!!

@SlyPokerDog Ad me to the S2 Record books. I spotted him first!

 

Lol hey buddy. You can thank Marazul. His email chain got me to check OT out.