Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

I haven't had blue balls since my teenager years. When you said blueballs you were meaning what I think you meant, right?

 

I think I may not be explaining myself correctly then. She has made it perfectly clear, she will never vote for either candidate. What she respects is “why I support him.” That it’s right for me. Just as I respect her for supporting Sanders, even though I don’t align with his morality metrics, I respect why she aligns with him politically.

It’s a very constant position of hers. She always stands her ground on very specific issues like LGBTQ, Socialism, and women’s issues.

I accept that, just like I accepted principled conservatives not voting for Trump in 2016. A no vote is still a vote.

 

I would say the same thing about a good friendship, virtually unconditional.

 

Yeah, I still don't think you're understanding my point. It has nothing to do with "what's right for each of you." It's that she claims to have a problem with "belittling the issue of sexual misconduct against women" (in her words) and you are doing that very thing by supporting someone (for political reasons) she believes engages in sexual misconduct. No matter how much he "aligns with you politically" you're belittling sexual misconduct by placing political considerations ahead of that. She can't both consider that the big problem in society and respect you doing that very thing. That's what's logically inconsistent.

 

I was, but I was also joking.

 

I am understanding it. I think you aren’t understanding she knows my support of Trump has nothing to do with his misogyny. Respecting, my support does not take away her intolerance of Trump. She still hates Trump and she still respects why I don’t. It’s not a binary outcome.

 

Dude has almost half a dozen chicks in the pen and complaining about blue balls.....

 

Then you aren't understanding my point, since that's irrelevant to what I'm saying.

 

Guess not

 

A good quality friendship includes love.

 

To vote for someone for public office does that mean you are belittling or excusing their wrongs? I think their is some validity to the answers, yes, no, and maybe. With any candidate we understand they will have faults some we may consider worse than others.
I think what mags is saying is that in their relationship she believes that his support of Trump isnt meant to excuse his wrongs, his misogyny, his “ism’s”, its that he believes Trump would be a good president. From her perspective she cant support Trump because she believes that those wrongs, his policies, etc., will make Trump a bad president. Him saying I think he’ll be a good president, does not mean he doesnt find fault in an individual

We all vote for flawed people because were all flawed, but when we make those votes we arent saying I am ok with all the bad things youve done in your life.

 

I guess we're going to have to agree to disagree because I don't know how else to phrase my point. I know you don't support Trump because he's sexual abusive and I know your daughter knows that too. I've been saying that supporting a sexual abuser because he agrees with you politically is the problem--it trivializes the issue of sexual abuse, which your daughter says is her problem with society. So what you are doing IS the problem she's talking about.

If you still think that "But she knows I don't support his sexual abuse" is an actual response to that, then we'll just have to let this go.

 

I think you need to look up the definition of “belittling”.

 

Well, of course you were joking. That was obvious. I hope it was just as obvious that I said what I said in good fun and I knew exactly what you meant by blue balls. Again when I questioned you on that i had a smile on my face.

 

MarAzul was banned for far less, but then he is a conservative.

You're safe.

 

I don't think so. When you say that rapists are okay if they agree with you politically, that's pretty belittling/trivializing of the issue of rape. But if you disagree with that, we can agree to disagree.

 

You accused Mags of belittling sexual misconduct.

belittle
[ bih-lit-l ]SHOW IPA
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verb (used with object), be·lit·tled, be·lit·tling.
to regard or portray as less impressive or important than appearances indicate; depreciate; disparage.


Mags has not said anything about the importance or severity of sexual misconduct.

 

If you read my posts, I'm saying that it does say something about the importance to a person of sexual misconduct to prioritize "agreeing with me politically" over "being a sexual abuser."

 

IMO, this would be similar to still liking Bill Cosby, and saying hey, I think sexual assault is bad, but the man's pretty funny. I support his comedy.