Politics Coronavirus Politics Edition!

irrelevant. None of those have s voice to the public.
I mean for christs sakes.....

id also like to add that everything you listed as leaning right have the right to vote how they please and back a certain party.

a news channel has the same right. They can run adds for whichever candidate they want. But the news being reported should be 100% unbiased and it is not.

People need to learn to separate the two.

freedom of the press was to stifle biased reporting. Not enhance it.

 

Here’s a cool list of the political leanings

http://verdantlabs.com/politics_of_professions/index.html

 

if you actually believe the oil and gas industry or the banking industry don't participate in public discourse you're hopelessly naive. All of those vested economic sectors I listed have massive and multiple soapboxes in the public square. And those soapboxes have become much bigger because of right wing SCOTUS rulings essentially saying that corporations are individuals and money is speech

but besides the public square, all those right-leaning economic interests are full participants in lawmaking thru lobbying & campaign contributions

as for media, you might want to account for Fox News, the Sinclair and Clear Channel monopolies, the heavy right wing bias of talk radio, and the fairly even split in what's left of print media

 

if you actually think the industrial political arena has the same influence on the public as the media, i don't know what to tell you...

i mean the media can control which industrial political voice they care to amplify even.

I see major flaws in your rebuttal.

 

i also posted links for you about media ownership so your last statement is irrelevant as well.

 

LOL...funny that I think my statements are completely relevant. I wonder if relevance is subjective?

 

i apologize if you missed my reasons for them being irrelevant. Would you like me to repeat?

 

and if you think they are irrelevant, and i think they are irrelevant, what are you even disputing?

 

And for the record, another reason your list of right leaning entities is irrelevant is the media has a moral obligation to provide unbiased truths. Though it would be nice, industrial companies are not held to the same standard, so comparing them is comparing apples to automobiles... irrelevant.

at any rate i provided links and reasons why i have my current stance and why i find your rebuttal to my stance as flawed.

 

Do Blue Lives Matter now?


https://twitter.com/adamparkhomenko/status/1256941104383045632?s=21

 

Why would this tweet suggest it didn’t?

 

Seems to me the people who shouted blue lives matter (after those black people had the gall to have black lives matter) are now the ones getting in the cops faces.

 

Blue lives matter does not conflict on them doing their job. They have the right to be physical with unruly protestors. The extreme right wing in this country hate cops. I can give thousands of examples if you want to see them.

 

I think that was his point. It was mostly the extreme right wing that yelled "Blue lives matter"--it's obvious that that actually had nothing to do with respecting police, it was just a convenient way to attack something they hated even more: black people.

And, again, I'm talking about the extreme right wing. I don't think all conservatives are hostile to black people.

 

Extreme Right wingers do not support blue lives. Maybe your idea of extreme right wingers are anyone on the right of your political alignment.

 

In fact, extreme right wingers are the cause of the most police attacks.

https://www.adl.org/blog/officers-down-right-wing-extremists-attacking-police-at-growing-rate

 

Nope. You're pretty right of me and I don't consider you one. Also, if you'd actually read my post, I specifically said extreme right-wingers don't actually support police. But at least some of them pretend to in order to shout down black people, whom they like even less.

 

Ah, okay I misread your post then.

 

ripped this from wikipedia:
A free and independent press has been theorized to be a key mechanism of a functioning, healthy democracy. In the absence of censorship, journalism exists as a watchdog of private and government action, providing information to maintain an informed citizenry of voters.
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The problem of a politically bought off and corrupt media whether that is right leaning Fox news type of outlets or left leaning ones is that their politicizing of everything and their misinformation creates a confused, misinformed public. It becomes outlets for brainwashing rather than for helping discover the truth.

So yeah sure there are industries that lean right and industries that lean left and you can argue thats good or bad, but the fact we really cant trust our media (whether its right or left wing), does nothing but cause even more confusion in situations like this.

Industries having lobbyists (no matter which way they lean) doesnt blast out to masses misinformation. The “news” is supposed to be our societies fact-checkers. Its not about it being “fair” to the right or the left IMO its that we should be able trust what they’re saying at least to a reasonable extent and Id say a majority of people dont trust them.
https://news.gallup.com/poll/267047/americans-trust-mass-media-edges-down.aspx

 

Trump yelling ‘fake news’ incessantly for three years has been more influential than anything. He’s got everyone believing that every single thing from CNN, and ALL networks except Fox is fake. In reality that isn’t true. It’s one thing to have “leaning” media one way or the other. But when the President says it’s all fake for years, he’s got his sheep saying the same thing.