Zombie The Coronavirus Financial Thread (Personal, Local, National)

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  1. Hoopguru

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    My feelings are to remain a capitalist prosperous country and with efficient management of government and controlled spending, we support the social programs needed.
    There's a reason so many around the world want to come here and many want to become citizens, I contend its because of freedoms enjoyed and opportunities presented along with already existing programs that assist those with special needs.
     
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    https://amp.cnn.com/cnn/2020/05/13/business/grocery-prices/index.html
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Ground beef was priced at $10.99 a pound yesterday...we passed.

    I make my own deer burger and the way I do it you truly cannot tell the difference between it and beef burger. All it costs me is the price for beef fat/scraps which is about $1.00 per pound. When doing the final grind I add salt, pepper, garlic powder, and diced vidalia onion and a little soy.

    So not counting my time for making it, I figure I've got about $1.50 per pound, $2.50 for adding bacon and cheese. I use this mix for chili, spaghetti, tacos, etc., I also make a few pounds for burgers on the grill and for that mix I add bacon and high temperature diced cheese...better and juicier than any burger you'll find at fast food drive thrus.

    I usually make about 20 pounds at a time and put them in quart freezer zip lock bags (get as much air out of bags as possible and then wrap in butcher's paper before freezing)

    Pretty simple;

    3 parts deer meat (REMOVE ALL FAT), bled out in water for 5-6 hours cut into 2" pieces
    1 part beef fat/scraps
    salt, pepper, garlic, onion etc., per your taste
    optional; for burgers, add diced bacon and/or high temperature diced cheese (cheddar, pepper jack, mozz)
    optional; for burgers, add soy/worcestershire/or your preferred marinade

    Tips;
    Use coarsest grinding plate first, then mix deer meat and beef fat/scraps and then add spices/diced onions/cheese and a little water and mix all together and then run thru grinder again using a medium size grinding plate.

    Also, and this really helps to get a good grind; out meat and fat in the freezer for and hour or so to make the meat and fat very firm. (not frozen)
     
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    That isn't due to increased wages. That's due to supply-chain being disrupted and so supply is low, therefore prices are going up.

    Increased wages (if they happen at all, which I think is unlikely) would only happen later when "things go back to normal" and companies suddenly need a large influx of workers after laying so many off before.
     
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    Maybe I lost track of the convo, and if so, I apologize, but I didn't think it was just about increased wages causing costs of goods to rise, I thought it was how all of this combined is going to make the costs of goods rise? That companies will not take the losses and it will all just be passed down to the consumer?

    But speaking of wages specifically:

    https://www.cnbc.com/2019/04/10/hig...es-and-fewer-employee-hours-survey-finds.html

    https://reason.com/2020/01/10/a-15-...stroy-jobs-and-hurt-americas-poorest-workers/


    Seems I find alot of info, or reports, that say wage increases in general, get passed down to the consumer.

    But really my larger concern is all the additional costs incurred by the virus aside from wages increases.

    Additions labor to man the door and manage the customers to make sure they adhere to the safety regulations. inability to have larger crowds to help the sales rate per hour for bars and restaurants, etc.

    To me it seems, companies will either need to increase the costs of their goods/services, or go under because they cant afford it.
     
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    10% thats laughable...
     
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    Got my last Blazers check May 1st. Was very grateful for getting paid for games missed. So May 2nd applied for unemployment and have heard NOTHING! Tried calling and every time I do, I get a busy signal. We did get our stimulus check right away, but now just hoping I get unemployment.
    Starting to get a bit concerned.
     
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    Calling into unemployment is a bitch! I never got though. Just busy signals. Took a couple weeks for mine. Best of luck! They are really backed up though. I just heard another 3 million people filed in the past week bringing it to a total of 36.5 million.
     
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    MAYBE BECAUSE YOU HAVE A 971 AREA CODE, SON. THEY ONLY ACCEPT CALLS FROM 503.

    I think if you get accepted, they backdate your UE pay. Everything is backlogged tho
     
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    This. First check will be a big one for all the back pay. At least in 08' they did when I was laid off.
     
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    Or, the taxpayers can subsidize the extra costs in some fashion.

    barfo
     
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    Explain further so i'm don't misunderstand? Are you advocating the middle class pay for it? They are the ones who pay the bulk of the taxes, correct? But then the middle class is the working force, soooo, how would that not end up hitting the average consumers'(working class America) pocketbooks just the same?

    Unless i'm misunderstanding you?
     
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    Bro, I've been called many names and disrespected on here for years.....but this might be the worse. To claim that THE HCP would actually have a 971 area code assigned to him to The Tipping Point FAMS!
     
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    Yeah, that's one thing I would not allow the cell companies to do when I got phones for my kids. I'm like "I don't care how you do it, but we're 503 only". I've now brainwashed them to believe their area codes are superior to their friends' as well.
     
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    First, I'm not advocating for anything, just listing a possibility.

    Your analysis is correct, on average. However the impact on individuals might differ significantly. For instance, if I don't ever buy product X, I'd prefer that the price rise on product X, or the company go out of business, rather than have to partially pay for your product X via my taxes. On the other hand, if I am a big consumer of product X, it would be great if the rest of y'all subsidized it so that I can continue to buy it on the cheap.

    barfo
     
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    Yep. That is a tough one. How to spread the impact out evenly even though people have different needs/wants. Off the top of my head, i'm not thinking of one universal need that could have a change that would spread evenly to all. Electricity? nope, some run primarily off of solar or renuable energy. Water? Nope. I have a well.

    So would you be for the government subsidizing the losses or the impact of the virus to some( me for example, minimal impact, HCP larger impact) by a univeral increase of something if there were one? So everyone were to pay in equally to help those impacted the most?
     

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