Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

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  1. jonnyboy

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    Nah they usually vote blue. Its a lot like Oregon or Colorado, much of the state is rural/conservative from a landmass perspective, but the small urban centers are more liberal and still closely out-populate. It’s why states like those have more infighting amongst themselves when it comes to policy making.
     
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    I love these concepts that Trump fans think are "drop the mic" moments, except they only appeal to other Trump fans.

    Yes, it's easy to drop the mic when you're trying to convince people who already agree with you.
     
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    Minnesota turned red with the election of several major Republican politicians in Minnesota. This was a mistake that they won't make again for a long time. Minnesota is firmly Blue.
     
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    Wow, all Democrats you say. And why is that? Ooh, ooh, I think I know, I think I know.
     
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    More things worth knowing.

     
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    Trump is officially toast.
     
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    I’m beginning to think that maybe the best thing for your country is for Trump to win re-election.

    Your society is broken, and there are only two paths forward. Unite, or divide.

    The only two things that I can possibly see uniting you are war with a foreign power, or recovering from complete societal breakdown.

    War may unite you, but your societal issues will remain unresolved.

    Biden winning will continue to divide you, but at a slower rate.

    Trump winning again will accelerate your division, and things will get so bad that you will either break apart, or unite. Either way real change will occur.

    Yes there will be a lot of short term pain, but it may be the quickest way to resolving the issues in your society. Even if it’s as different nations.
     
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    Or, far more likely, divisions will continue to grow but nothing will break down. The rioting is a tiny fraction of one percent of the population--the nation is nowhere near a societal breakdown. Not to mention, the whole "burn it down and start over" was the guiding philosophy of a lot of Trump voters (who incorrectly saw Trump as a crusading outsider bent on revolution). I'm not going to embrace the same philosophy. The nation will be better off, short term and long term, with a President that doesn't try to stoke anger. Biden may not be liked by many Republicans, but nothing in the polling suggests that he's hated or makes a number of people angry.
     
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    this long-running flag-burning issue is such a giant load of hypocritical horseshit

    it's long been pushed by the chicken-hawk R's whenever they want to wade deep into the cesspool of demagoguery. They like to wrap themselves in the flag to inoculate themselves from criticism, and it's ironic how often the ones wrapping themselves are people who never put on a uniform and defended the principles the flag is supposed to represent.

    I've seen Republican conventions for years and the flag is being 'desecrated' everywhere. The flag is warped into straw hats and derby's; it's cut into t-shirts and bow-ties. It's molded into paper cups, plastic glasses, and swizzle sticks for fuckssakes

    that's because the American flag doesn't just materialize out of thin air when somebody has reached a certain level of patriotic virtue. Flags are manufactured by companies and corporations. And they aren't manufactured pro-bono. Those flags are made so those companies and corporations can make money. There's no patriotic virtue involved, just capitalistic motivation

    and isn't just symbolic that the R's like trump want the flag to be an acceptable tool for profit, but an unacceptable tool for protest. That you can use the flag to make a buck but you can't use it to make a point. Unmitigated hypocrisy.
     
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    Biden's in one of the best positions for any challenger since scientific polling began

    A new ABC News/Washington Post poll shows former Vice President Joe Biden clearly ahead of President Donald Trump. Biden's up by a 53% to 43% margin among registered voters in this survey.

    But it's important to put individual polls into context, and that context continues to show Biden's in one of the best positions for any challenger since scientific polling began in the 1930s.

    There were more than 40 national public polls taken at least partially in the month of May that asked about the Biden-Trump matchup. Biden led in every single one of them. He's the first challenger to be ahead of the incumbent in every May poll since Jimmy Carter did so in 1976. Carter, of course, won the 1976 election. Biden's the only challenger to have the advantage in every May poll over an elected incumbent in the polling era.

    Biden remains the lone challenger to be up in the average of polls in every single month of the election year. His average lead in a monthly average of polls has never dipped below 4 points and has usually been above it.

    Biden hasn't trailed Trump this entire year in a single telephone poll in which at least some voters were reached via their cell phones -- historically the most accurate. The ABC News/Washington Post poll is the latest example of these polls. In fact, Biden's never been behind in any of these polls since at least January 2019. No other challenger has come close to that mark.

    Indeed, the stability of Biden's edge has been what is most impressive. The May polls had Biden up by 6 points on average. That is right where the average of polls taken since the beginning of this year has been. It's where the average of polls conducted since the beginning of 2019 has been as well.

    If we limit ourselves to just the telephone polls that call cell phones, Biden's edge might even be slightly larger. This month those polls have Biden up 7 points on average. Estimating Biden's advantage from state polls of this type shows a similar lead for Biden.

    A look at the fundamentals shows why Trump continues to trail. Simply put, he remains unpopular.

    His net approval rating (approval - disapproval) in the ABC News/Washington Post poll was -8 points. That's very close to the average of polls, which has it at about -10 points. At no point during the past three years has Trump ever had a positive net approval rating.

    The only other two presidents to have a net approval rating this low at this point in the campaign were Carter in 1980 and George H.W. Bush in 1992. Both of them lost reelection.

    But I'm not predicting anything here. Between the coronavirus pandemic and now the protests and riots taking place nationwide, we're obviously in a volatile news environment.

    Still, no other campaign involving an incumbent president has moved as little as this one has. That's after nearly three months of the coronavirus dominating the news cycle. That's after many anti-Biden ads have been aired.

    It's at least possible that nothing will move the electorate substantially in Trump's direction.
     
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    I see Biden's lead getting much bigger.
     
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    There’s no way Biden loses and if he does I’m going back to colombia lol
     
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    Me and my wife are considering Bermuda.
     
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