OK, so thru the protests, rules and regulations are then made to fix things? Rules and regulations don't change hearts. People do. And that's the reason I'm personally getting involved . It's what my dad did as related way above in here. Grass roots, ground level productive activism is where it's at with me. Again,, the players can take a knee. That's fine.
I remember back when Canseco released his book and everyone said it was all BS. I think everyone named in that book was taking steroids.
True, they don't change hearts, but if you change institutions, and bring it to the light, it will change hearts. How many times have we heard from black people that the police treat them differently, and people acted like they were just 'whining'? Or how many times have we heard about red-lining, and people acted like it was nothing bad. Or how many times have we heard about labeling POC on welfare as "welfare queens", and did nothing about it? (despite the fact that a higher rate of whites are on welfare than that of blacks) You change those rules AND change the way people address/think about each other. I thnk that's the point you're missing. If you just change one of them (how people think about each other, etc), it doesn't matter much if they're still treated as 2nd and 3rd class citizens by the people in power. What good does it do someone to report a crime against you, if the person you report it to doesn't have to be held accountable for taking you seriously? Or there is a "good old boy" network happening? Why do you think blacks tend to go to the police less than whites do? They're treated differently than whites are by the police/government. Why would you go to them if you know it's pointless? They'll say you're lying, say you're a thug, accuse you of something you didn't do...after a while it becomes pointless. Man, I hate the fact that in 2020, I'm having to mansplain (whitesplain?) this.
As I mentioned above, I can have philisophical conversations with my Black friend I'm simply saying we've had "protests" in our country for decades. It takes MORE than protests!
Well looks like the KKK got involved........ https://www.rawstory.com/2020/06/vi...b2L37oHrkGfGfU8ybvUCMCTxxCp82c58pWysoSE_610e0
Thing is, we haven't had major protests like this. This is even more so than the ones in the 60's. But the ones in the 60's wrought change. Most of the protests people have had in the past were minor protests, and were very VERY one sided, as in a very homogeneous protest group. This one is different. it's not only bringing out POC, but it's bringing out whites. It's bringing out old and young. It's bringing out people in DIFFERENT continents, man. We have protests happening around the world. That is change. And unlike most of the protests of years past, this one seems to have staying power.
I wonder how long it will be before Trump denounces this guy, and labels the KKK as a terrorist group. Hold on, I just got a DM from someone. Weird, the only thing it said was "never".
And the change happens *because* of protests. You think the civil rights would've happened and they not protested/boycotted the bus system? or walked across the bridge? Or sat at the counters? Protests opened the eyes to many americans that we needed to change. If it wasn't for the protests, and people actually seeing what was happening, nothing would've happened. We love to ignore things as a country. it's our super power. These protests are too big to ignore, and will cause those in power to change. Whether or not they change or "change" is yet to be seen. But you seem to be acting like, or implying, that these protesters aren't also demanding change in our society. These aren't just people who are protesting "for the sake of protesting".
Thanks, Captain Obvious. Who ever said protests are all it takes? You can make that extremely obvious point without constantly belittling protestors. Protest is extremely important, as is donating money, donating time, lobbying politicians, creating outreach organizations, etc. Constantly being condescending about protestors in order to make a point that everyone, including protestors, already knows just makes you look entitled, smug and not interested in talking particularly seriously about the issue.
Yeah, but the 60's protests brought complete equal rights law changes that needed to happen! The issues at stake now are of the heart. How do you go about changing hearts? With protests? I say, yeah, OK, but a lot more than just that.
Hold on, are you actually stating that systemic racism, and police brutality towards black people, where the police get away with *MURDER*, is just an issue of the heart? I don't know how to respond to that. I mean, I'm literally at a loss for words on how to respond to something that is so far off base from reality.
Seriously. He's become one of the more intolerable posters here. At least @MARIS61 doesn't try to mask his madness
I think, "issues of the heart", or however you'd like to put it, human nature? It definitely plays a part in it, and it played a part in why those systems are there, to begin with too. However changing the system's to be about justice is the place to start, because changing human nature is generational, and much harder (if not impossible) to do. It's why protesting those systems is ok and good and a big part of what makes a society move forward. Making the systems better will not "make it all go away", it will mean that justice is universal across race, world-views, sexuality, gender, etc. At least if the system is good.
