Politics Defunding the Portland Police Dept.

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Are you more in favor of:

  1. 1. Abolishing the Portland Police entirely.

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    16.0%
  2. 2. Severely restrict the Portland Police and turning some functions over to social services.

    6 vote(s)
    24.0%
  3. 3. Restrict use of deadly force, retrain, and get rid of bad cops.

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    56.0%
  4. 4. Have different policies for different neighborhoods based on community makeup.

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  5. 5. Leave things pretty much as is.

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  1. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Have they ever been fun-ded? Maybe that's their problem.
     
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    e_blazer Rip City Fan

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    Did someone ask for a Fuhrer?

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    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    I think at least a few get their jollies being racist and sexist scumbags.

    Remember this from years ago?

    https://www.wweek.com/news/2016/04/...nson-was-killed-by-portland-police-at-age-31/

    Portlanders were outraged. That fury grew when, on the day of Stevenson's funeral, two white officers, Paul Wickersham and Richard Montee, sold T-shirts to fellow cops. The shirts showed a smoking handgun and the words "Don't Choke 'Em, Smoke 'Em."


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    It's interesting that Portland and the police had this very same debate over choke holds 30 years ago.
     
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  4. Orion Bailey

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    How would the ded have fun? I mean do you feel emotions when you are ded?
     
  5. Orion Bailey

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    Nah. A little bit more like this.

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    We want more fun in the academy?

    Maybe we should aim for something more like this....

     
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    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    I enjoyed those movies...and did most people I knew.
     
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    I do think policing has improved from the 50's and 60's. Some reform has happened since then but not enough.
    Im not convinced you will ever be able to reform Chicago without reforming the crooked politics.
     
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    With 24/7 news and crazy internet, most anything anymore you hear about cops is negative. And we should hear about bad cops murdering and abusing people, but honestly we don't hear much, or see much, about the good deeds they do either. and they have come to the rescue many times in most communities.
     
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    yankeesince59 "Oh Captain, my Captain".

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    Been saying that for awhile now.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Training to become a police officer should be no less than a year. It's insane how much schooling someone has to go through to become a nurse, but six months and they're certified to carry a gun and dole out justice.

    They need to completely change how they're assessing candidates. They need stronger personality tests. They need to have them meet with a panel of civilians. They need to weed out the crazies.

    They neeeeeeeeed to cut down on the stupid revenuing. It only strengthens the "us vs them" mentality.
     
  14. barfo

    barfo triggered obsessive commie pinko boomer maniac Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Yes, that for sure. If you must give out traffic tickets, you can do it without contact now, just have gatsos taking pictures and mailing tickets. No need to pull drivers over or involve the police for anything but actual dangerous behavior.

    barfo
     
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    If we're "defunding" something wouldn't it have had to have been fun to begin with?
     
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    PtldPlatypus Let's go Baby Blazers! Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    All other professions to which we compare police training require the potential applicant to pay for their own education. If we're attempting to compare, are we suggesting that potential applicants for police positions should have to pay for that retaining as well? Would we have private, independent police training centers much like we have private nursing schools? Or should this year-plus police training all be on the taxpayer dime?
     
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    They pay for it and then get reimbursed if they prove to be a successful officer. More incentive to weed out those who are looking to get into it for disingenuous reasons.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    EMTs have to do it. Nurses have to do it. Even fire fighters have to do it. I don't know why we don't make police have to get training on their own dime before they can even apply to be a police officer. It should be a certification through an accredited program and then another six months in the state school to make doubly sure.

    But I still maintain that our justice system as a whole is rotten to the core. It's not just the police. This is a much larger problem than the enforcement side of law and order.
     
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    The system of policing needs a reform, as its currently a property security force with a quota system for the private prison system and city revenue coffers. The police union is not a union in the sense of other labor unions, and has devolved into a protection racket. The complete infiltration of police by white supremicists has rendered the force as it currently stands untenable from a personnel standpoint. The military surplus equipment purchased by the police dehumanize officers and remove moral barriers to brutality.

    My solution involves a restructuring of crime and punishment definitions, an abolishment of the private prison system, a defunding and redistribution of city and county funds away from police to social services, intense training requirements for officers, a police force that must live in the neighborhoods it patrols. No military surplus can be allowed on the force, and the Geneva Conventions for use of force must be the bare minimum standards of engagement. Police should be the backup for the social services that take their place in most situations, and should not be able to engage without an okay from the service person placed in charge of the incident. The police budget can be no more than the mean average of all civic social services that replace them. They are one service among many now.
     
  20. Orion Bailey

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    I agree with most all of this.
    Great post Whiner. :)
     
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