OT Black Man In Minnesota Dies After Cop Kneels On His Neck/ Portland Riots

"<video giving false information about BLM>"

"That's not accurate."

"I'm not sure that it's wrong, I'm still trying to research their goals."

"Here's a link to their goals."

"Look, you have your views and I have mine."

"Okay, but the information you're looking for is right here..."

"I like my group, they do good work."

"I'm sure they do, but that information is wr-"

"Hey, hey...I'm still researching. We'll see."

"But the information is right at this link."

"I don't care. You have your certain viewpoints, let's just leave it at that."

This has truly been a fascinating debate.

 

Exactly. Now you're gettin' it, Charlie Brown.

 

https://www.foxnews.com/us/charred-body-found-in-destroyed-minneapolis-pawn-shop-months-after-riots

Charred body found in destroyed Minneapolis pawn shop months after riots

By Edmund DeMarche | Fox News
Authorities in Minneapolis made a grim discovery Monday when they recovered a charred body left in the wreckage of a pawn shop that was set on fire about two months ago at the height of the George Floyd protests in the city.

Fox 9 reported that the city’s police force is investigating. The body is believed to have been an adult male, the report said. The city’s medical examiner will work to determine the precise cause of death.

City police and other agencies, including the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms and Explosives were investigating Max It Pawn after a tip, the Star Tribune reported.

"The body appears to have suffered thermal injury and we do have somebody charged with setting fire to that place," John Elder, a police spokesman told the paper.

Montez Terrill Lee, 25, was charged federally for his alleged connection to the blaze, the report said.

 

Anti-cop 'mob' swarms Back the Blue event in Denver, bloodying several before shutting things down: reports
Acting Deputy Homeland Security Secretary Ken Cuccinelli tweeted, 'These tyrannical, left-wing anarchists hate free speech. If you do not agree with them, they believe you must be beaten down – literally'

By Danielle Wallace | Fox News

A large crowd of anti-cop demonstrators descended on a Back the Blue event in Denver on Sunday afternoon, blowing whistles, banging drums and, in some instances, throwing punches, forcing police to intervene before the gathering was effectively shut down early, according to reports.

The sixth annual Law Enforcement Appreciation Day event was scheduled to be held Sunday from 3 to 6 p.m. at the amphitheater in Civic Center Park in Denver. It was advertised by the Pro Police Rally Colorado Facebook page.

Randy Corporon, an attorney who helped organize the "family-friendly" event involving food and live music by Becker Band, said Denver Police Chief Paul Pazen had asked him to either reschedule or move the pro-police gathering from its normal location, citing a risk that officers could be put in danger as Black Lives Matter demonstrators planned a counter-protest also at the Civic Center Park.

NAVY VETERAN PRAISED AS 'CAPTAIN PORTLAND' AFTER BEATING BY FEDERAL OFFICERS DURING RIOTS


A man bleeds from his head after being injured at a pro-law enforcement rally that clashed with counter-protesters demonstrating against racial inequality, in Denver, Colorado, U.S. July 19, 2020. (Reuters/Kevin Mohatt)

“He was agitated that we're going to get his officers hurt,” Corporon told the Denver Post.“My response to him was that he should allow his officers to do their job and if people are down there breaking the law, to stop them. Because they'll have nothing to fear from us.”

“We’re exercising our constitutional right to peacefully assemble, and we have no intention of giving up that ground to these domestic terrorists,” he said before the event. “This chief of police is the guy who walked hand-in-hand with Black Lives Matter.”

“If you agree that the domestic terrorists don't own the streets and our parks in my birthplace, once beautiful Denver Colorado, please join me,” Corporon tweeted Saturday advertising the event the next day.

Shortly after the band began to play around 3 p.m. on Sunday, anti-police demonstrators, who greatly outnumbered the group who had shown up to show their support for law enforcement, moved into the amphitheater space and banged drums, blew whistles, clanged pots, clapped and shouted obscenities to drown out the music, according to the Denver Post.

Several people threw punches. Photos showed clashes between women from opposing sides pulling each other’s hair. One man was bloodied and had a large gash in his forehead.


Two women begin to fight at a pro-law enforcement rally that clashed with counter-protesters demonstrating against racial inequality, in Denver, Colorado, U.S. on July 19, 2020. (Reuters/Kevin Mohatt)

Officers on duty to monitor the event tried to form a line between the two groups but could not completely separate the opposing sides. Denver Police later confirmed they used chemical sprays in at least three separate instances to help disperse the crowd.

Conservative blogger Michelle Malkin posted several videos documenting the events Sunday as they unfolded. She said Black Lives Matter protesters swarmed the stage and attacked several women attending the pro-police rally, some using collapsable batons.

Acting Deputy Homeland Security Secretary Ken Cuccinelli reacted to the “Outrageous violence” seen in Denver Sunday, tweeting “These tyrannical, left-wing anarchists hate free speech. If you do not agree with them, they believe you must be beaten down – literally.”

Most of the people showing support for law enforcement had left within an hour. Anti-police demonstrators also stood in front of a police vehicle to prevent it from leaving, the Post reported.

One person was arrested for assault. Police said a supervisor was at the scene to ensure the two pepper ball deployments and one hand-held fog device deployment were carried out according to the department's policy.


Anti-police protesters, left, clash with a Pro-Police Rally supporter when dueling rallies collided at Civic Center Park on July 19, 2020 in Denver, Colorado. (Photo by Helen H. Richardson/MediaNews Group/The Denver Post via Getty Images)

“Our goal is to make sure everybody has the ability to exercise their First Amendment rights. Those tools are used only if there is some sort of disruption or threat to safety,” Denver police spokesman Tyrone Campbell told the Post.

The counter-protest was organized by Party for Socialism and Liberation, and other Black Lives Matter supporters, including the Afro-Liberation Front, according to KMGH-TV.

Lillian House, an organizer for the Party of Socialism and Liberation, said any celebration in support of police is “unacceptable” and “just all around out of touch with the struggles people are facing.”

"There's not much else to say other than every cop here is a terrorist by association," Hale Rardin, a Black Lives Matter supporter at the scene, told the station.

In response to the criticism against law enforcement, Pro Police Rally Colorado founder Ron MacLachlan said his group is not against police reform or Black Lives Matter advocating for racial justice but made a distinction that “We've got to stand with our men and women in law enforcement. Without them, we are in chaos and anarchy."

“The idea that these people have been around for the last six weeks going out and terrorizing different neighborhoods for a couple hours at a time, that's not acceptable," he said, referring to the civil unrest that's unfolded since George Floyd died in police custody in Minneapolis in May.

Before the event Sunday, MacLachlan said the pro-police gathering was not just for officers but also for their families. He pondered, “What kind of home are they in when they have that kind of tension going on inside their lives?"

Malkin also claimed MacLachlan “was beaten with just minutes after praying" by Black Lives Matter protesters using a bullhorn and a longhorn. She also said police Chief Pazen, “who marched with BLM last month, let pro-police patriots get beaten and silenced.”

 

That last statement is inflammatory.

 

Sure, yeah...can't you tell that by now?

 

It was a rather hemorrhoidal remark.

 

He gets snarky when he is pissed. Pretty funny to watch.

 

This was an eye opener.

 

WELCOME TO TRUMP'S MAKE AMERICA GREAT AGAIN

remember, responsibility starts at the top and the top has failed.

 

Question: Does BLM as a whole have a unified message? In again reviewing the video by Woodson, it appeared that there are many chapters (factions?) nationwide - along with quotes and printed matter from within each chapter. I'm just curious how much control the mother ship has on its various constituents?

 

Ah, 1776. Slavery. The Black man was 3/5 of a man. A husband could legally rape and beat a wife and had total control over her wages and property. Homosexuality was punishable by death. No wonder a Trump supporter wants to return to those days when America was great.

 

Good comments and I agree that we need to continue to inform ourselves on all sides of the various matters. I do like what Woodson & Co. has to say on most matters, but it certainly doesn't mean he's correct on everything. I'm continuing to research.

As to my question to you, above, I did find this piece, which outlined a couple of things...

https://www.theatlantic.com/politic...-the-alt-right-and-black-lives-matter/538320/

Black Lives Matter

For starters, I don’t think Black Lives Matter belongs in the online conversation about whether Americans should be denouncing violence “on all sides.” The movement’s end of stopping unjust police killings is laudable; and its leaders and the vast majority of its members openly favor nonviolent means. Plus, unlike Nazis, nothing about the future it desires is inseparable from initiating violence. That doesn’t mean it is beyond criticism. It is a large, free-wheeling movement without clear leaders, and individual participants have no doubt acted badly on many occasions, as is true of groups as varied as the Sons of Liberty in 1775, anti-Vietnam War protesters, and the Tea Party. I have criticized Black Lives Matter activists in the past for disrupting a Bernie Sanders event and for the tactic of blocking freeways.

But I draw a distinction between objectionable acts of civil disobedience and engaging in violence. Some Black Lives Matter critics blame the group for the killing of five Dallas police officers. But the gunman acted alone, using tactics that the protest movement never urged or used, and group leaders denounced the killings. The group has the same relationship to the Dallas killer as nonviolent pro-life groups have to the extremist who perpetrated a mass killing at a Planned Parenthood.

 

Nah...

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2015/12/10/9886152/donald-trump-fascism