For those of you who value analytics, Anfernee Simons is having one of the worst seasons of all time

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  1. Propagandist

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    No, I understand. I'm just saying Seth has been a knock down shooter since day one. And still is. Seth is a smart player. Simons is not, at all and who knows what will happen, but losing games isn't worth finding out.

    Are you honestly referencing that Sacramento game as proof of something? Haha. EVERYONE looked good in that game. But yes, I was excited too. That was fun. But again, so what if it means another high volume, inefficient player?

    My point is this: fuck Simons. Let's ride with Gary. Gary doesn't make us worse. If age is such a valuable thing, hey Gary is only a few months older than Anfernee. Simons is a terrible player and his terribleness has become a HUGE distraction.

    I don't nitpick Olshey anymore, but I disagree about the hype stuff. He needs to zip it, or talk about the guys that are actually good.
     
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    it's such a hard comparison between Euro soccer and American basketball as players are sold in soccer where as a player needs to be traded in the NBA and then the NBA has a salary cap and luxury tax penalties where as Soccer has a fair play rule (based on a teams income, meaning the rich get richer and the poor grab the scraps). The big power teams come raiding the smaller teams for their players all the time which keeps creating the disparity.

    I do agree with you on the confidence thing though as to be successful, you have to have the right amount of confidence and humility and Simons might be over thinking to much. I'm an old fart and a baseball player and a perfect example is Chuck Knoblach who was an all star second baseman and out of the blue, he couldn't throw the ball accurately to first base anymore. It became such a mental thing for him as in order to be successful one needs to have the tools, but also need to healthy mentally. Let's hope he gets it.
     
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    Before the shutdown, Trent had clearly moved ahead of Simons in the rotation so not sure why you think that's an issue. Simons has a 4 year contract (if options are picked up) at a very low cost. No harm in allowing the time to see what he can become. It's up to Simons to put the work in and to make himself at minimum a rotational NBA player. For comparison Trents minutes were 29 and 26 minutes in the last 2 months before the shutdown and Simons was 19 and 15 minutes per game so Stotts has already favored Trent over Simmons and no reason not to expect that to remain.
     
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    Never said anything about his salary not being worthwhile, just think its hard to call him decent compared to the rest of the NBA.
     
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    Seth was a huge part of our success. Played great defense. Lights out shooter. Now we have weak ass Simons smh
     
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    Apparently we have a different definition for decent.
     
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    Not likely. Carmelo is a career 34% shooter from 3-10 feet and that's supposed to be his sweet spot.
     
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    Ant will be fine.
     
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    He commands a double team. Defends well in isolation. Above average three point shooter. And one of the most clutch players ever, as we saw when he hit the game winner against Toronto. So yeah, he’s at LEAST decent.
     
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    Honestly, its hard to care about any of this until the pandemic is over.
     
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    Interesting. Sports have been played through tough times before. It’s helpful to see our heroes stand up to play again. It lets us see that we will get through this. Remember how happy you were after OKC game 5? You said it was the best day of your life. That matters.
     
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    He does not command a double team, nor does he defend well in isolation...

    One shot in one game? Meh.

    3pt shooting is his only above average attribute.
     
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    He was double teamed in the post all season and players shoot less than 40% against him isolation. Also he won Player of the Week. That makes him at least decent. And that one shot in one game may be the difference on making playoffs.
     
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    You have some selective memory. You should link those stats as well.

    One of his defensive miscues in a close game could be the difference in making the playoffs. Anything can. We've lost games when he's shot poorly.
     
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    Yeah, but we werent going through something as important as this.

    Sorry, just more important things to worry about that sports unfortunatetly cant distract from.
     
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    Sports went on during the Vietnam war. Sports happened the week JFK was shot. Sports went on after 9/11. There’s a whole section in the newspaper about sports. They’re important. Also, “worrying” about COVID doesn’t solve anything. Just stay socially distanced and wear a mask.
     
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    Last scoring efficiency of Blazer starters past and present (TS%)
    .641 - Whiteside
    .625 - Hood
    .619 - Lillard
    .570 - Nurk
    .568 - Aminu (good year for him but not luck - he simply changed his shot selection taking 60% more shots from 0-3 getting fouled to boot).
    .547 - Harkless (bad year, .596, .570 prior years)
    .543 - C.J.
    .517 - Carmelo

    That's horrific. Carmelo has a 7% assist rate, same as Aminu, Harkless, Hood, and 1% better than Hassan. Not like he's hitting the open man from double teams.
    C.J. gets hammered by many Blazer fans as inefficient. What does that make Carmelo? And C.J. has 2.5x the assist rate.
     
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    Carmelo’s 3pt% this season is his best since 2014.
     
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    Im not "worried" about it, but i do work in a field where i have to be diligent and mindful of all I do.

    Im not arguing, though, Eric. Im also not comparing a pandemic to a war. Im simplu stating that right now arguing about how a particular guy on our team is doing doesnt seem to be worth the effort. We can agree to disagree.
     
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    And despite that he's still not at all an efficient scorer. The fact that he's hitting three-pointers is all that's keeping him playable. If he were a 30% three-point shooter, he wouldn't be a viable NBA player.
     

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