I agree that Trumps has sent his goons but Its still is the responsibility of the Portland Police to get a handle on things. Thats my point. As you know Im not a big federal guy anyway and if it was the Social Security office or Post Office any fed building I'd just as soon the local authorities address. If this were a bunch of neo nazi's piggy backing a legit protest just to agitate and destroy any public/private property Im sure you'd want them dealt with quickly as I would. Fuck Trump & the media lets take control of our own community. If those agitators came to my community set fires, broke windows, painted at will and disrespected community authority it would last maybe 1 or 2 night's and it would be over, vevn if it were a couple blocks involved. Communities dont tolerate that shit, thats where they live, raise their nuggets and invest their lives.
I don't know anyone who is a fan of graffiti and broken windows. I'm certainly not and I certainly won't minimize the destruction or excuse the assholes that are running wild. but to me, that ancillary damage is a secondary issue. Focusing on it is falling directly into the trap that trump and the right wing are trying to push people into in another thread, dviss quoted Martin L. King and I think the quote needs to be repeated, often: “Certain conditions continue to exist in our society, which must be condemned as vigorously as we condemn riots. But in the final analysis, a riot is the language of the unheard. And what is it that America has failed to hear? It has failed to hear that the plight of the Negro poor has worsened over the last few years. It has failed to hear that the promises of freedom and justice have not been met. And it has failed to hear that large segments of white society are more concerned about tranquility and the status quo than about justice, equality and humanity. And so in a real sense our nation’s summers of riots are caused by our nation’s winters of delay. And as long as America postpones justice, we stand in the position of having these recurrences of violence and riots over and over again. Social justice and progress are the absolute guarantors of riot prevention” - Dr. Martin Luther King[/QUOTE] that was truth 55 odd years ago when he said it, and it's still truth today and now, we have the added issue of trump militarizing the response, and peaceful protestors getting shot, and clubbed, and tear-gassed so no, I'm not going to focus on graffiti and broken glass and breached fences. I can see the forest thru the trees
I went down to the protest today. It was peaceful up until midnight Guess who started it? The fucking feds. Tear gas and flashbangs. Fuck them. It was a god damn peaceful protest. I dont want to hear shit about it. I saw it with my own two eyes. They escalated shit. So honestly, if you believe its the protestors fault. I can say unequivocally youre wrong. I will not discuss it.
I'm physically unable to get there or I would. I would show up with my Army hat and medals supporting BLM. However, I will not shut up. Dear God, I wish I could be there even for a short time. Would I riot? No way, I'm not the violent type but I'd protest my heart out. Gotta get up extremely early to go to dialysis so can't stay up late. Also,lately I'm experiencing extreme dizziness and some black outs due to extremely low blood pressure. My wife had had to break my fall a few times but is unable to prevent my falls. It's pretty bad. I'll always regret not demonstrating against the Vietnam war and demonstrating for the right for 18 year olds to vote, I was unable to vote until I was 21 in spite of being in combat in the Army with people wanting to kill me. So please pardon my absence.
Wow, Lanny. Just wow. When we finally settle up on our bet, We'll come pick up you and your wife. We can go to one of your favorite nearby restaurants.
ABM, we have a nice car that accommodates my wheel chair. My wife just needs help loading and unloading it. She weighs 120 lbs soaking wet and the wheel chair is heavy. We bought a step ladder yesterday so I could change light bulbs. Our two step step stool is too short and I can't make it to the top because I know I would fall to the floor and get badly hurt. Well, it took my wife several minutes and all her strenght (she's in her 70s to load it in our brand new very expensive car. I heard her grunting for some minutes trying to get it out of my Costco electric wheel chair and into our car. Then, the poor woman had to get it out of the car and into our house where it will remain never to get dirty from outside use. I can make it a few feet with the cane in one hand on my wife on the other arm but if I get dizzy like what happens when I cough, I've got to drop the cane and grab a hold of something with my free arm. The good news is that they have been worried about my heart at the VA hospital for some time now so they did an echo cardiogram and found no chznge since my last echo cardiogram. And today is the last day I'll be wearing my 14 day heart monitor so I'll be able to wash my front and my hair as well as get a clean shave in the shower. This all happens at 7 pm tonight, yippee.
We know that not all people are physically able to attend. I know you Lanny. I know why you are not able to come down, and I know that you would if you could. What I mean is that folks who can't come down and don't speak to folks who are down there, cuz I've been down there 49 days, cannot speak intelligently about what's happening down there. If you watching the news then you're speaking with an uninformed opinion. Folks like ABM who even refused to even look at what we want and will continue to paint us a negative light, are really the people I'm telling to shut the fuck up.
You should pick them up and come down to the protest so you can know what the hell is going on and stop spouting the bullshit that you do. You are an uninformed American and you get your information from terrible sources. Then on top of it you coming espouse that opinion like it's the truth when really it's just idiocy. You don't know dick about what's going on.
Bro... What world are you living in?? The police have been violating our first, second, and fourth amendment rights far longer than these feds. Differentiate is not a word that is in their vocabulary. They are indiscriminate with who they choose. Hearing you speak I can tell that you don't have a clue of what's Happening down on the ground. I would encourage every person in this forum to come down to the protest and you can stay until midnight until the feds come out and try to use their Jack Boots. You will see what the hell is going on and be more informed. But until then talk to someone who's down there consistently or don't think you can speak intelligently or with an informed opinion about what's happening at Ground Zero.
agree...and sometimes there are real anarchist are about to tear this country down of which I dont agree with. They both need to be weeded out as neither care about social justice or our communities.
The system that continues to oppress my people needs to be torn down. And you're going to watch it torn down right before your eyes. Mark my words.
I was discussing that same idea with my wife. I didn't name a specific place but we discussed that the leaders for the BLM need to step up and get the peaceful protesters out of there so that it's obvious where the problem is. Right now it's the right pointing the fingers at the left and the left pointing the fingers at the right. Doing the same thing for 50+ days isn't changing anything and don't give the feds any excuse for being here.
Yeah cause it seems to be working so well for his campaign over all. trump is nothing but a goon and a thug.
