Politics The Democratic Convention Nobody Watched

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I think the last time I watched the convention (or part of it) was weirdly enough, when Obama gave his speech in 04.

    that's the only time I've see any of the conventions live (to my memory). I remember seeing clips off on and, but this years stuff just is cheesey. Not because of the substance, but the fact it's basically a glorified Zoom meeting. And I've had enough of those to last me a lifetime.

    But it's not a surprise that ABM posted a really poor attempt at a "gotcha!/HAHAH! Trump owns the LIbs again!" and turned out he was actually, once again, wrong about what he posted.

    It's not taking into account the # of people who watched it A: online and B: on MSNBC, CNN, Fox News, and any other platform. And even all that said, who gives a shit how many people watch it? This isn't your typical election year, nothing (on either side) is going to appear normal compared to previous National Conventions, R and D.

    You know, and I know, if the situation was reversed, conservatives would be pointing out it's a conspiracy, or that no one is including the other channels it's on, or that it's late at night, or that people are working, or some other nonsensical bullshit they have to convince themselves is the truth so they can sleep at night.
     
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    I haven't been a tv watcher most of my life but I do watch the speeches now on youtube after the event...I don't watch the music performances, etc...just the candidates and former presidents, etc...the dems have done a great job this time addressing the problems we're facing with Trump...he's getting crushed like a stale saltine cracker....never seen a convention with the kind of national urgency that this one expresses....I think it's been really good and really on point
     
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    With Trump's mega war chest he chooses to spend it on truck billboard insults....figures.. he's got nothin' and he's drowning in a sea of his own bullshit
     
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    This is gonna be lit AF.
     
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  7. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Like I then said, a lot of the country watch AGT, then tuned out the convention. Hey, you may be all ho-hum about a stinkin' convention, but enthusiasm does count. Got Trump elected the first time. I'll be interested to see the Republican convention ratings.
     
  8. julius

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    The difference is, it wasn't a "lot of the country" watched AGT, it was 5 million.

    And they weren't on at the same time.
     
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    If you voted for a reality tv host...you were probably watching AGT because the news has too many big words to follow..most of my friends don't have a TV or watch TV shows at all...they all keep up on current events though with the internet...I've never seen AGT...I did see the speeches though online
     
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    21 million last night @ABM.

    And isn't just horrible seeing all of these Democrats and Republicans talking about kindness, empathy, unity, the rule of law, and love? Horrible!

    They should be ashamed. Bring on the fear and hate! Oh, that's next week's show.
     
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    What I don’t quite understand is that Democrats watch the DNC and Republicans watch the RNC so what are they really accomplishing. Unless a higher % of Trumps fans are watching than I am assuming. And who the hell is gonna watch the Trump/Chachi show who is voting for Biden?
     
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    Well, at one person has been watching--Donald Trump.

    Trump Is Having a Full-Blown Temper Tantrum Over Michelle Obama
    The former first lady struck a nerve with the president in a speech that nailed him not as an evil genius, but an inadequate fraud.


    Much ado was made, in 2016, about the supposed genius of the nicknames with which Donald Trump branded his opponents. Lyin’ Ted. Little Marco. Crooked Hillary. To some observers, these insults, however childish, stuck because they managed to capture something essential about their targets or the way that they were perceived. Through some combination of canny marketing or accidental savvy, the theory went, he was able to latch onto his opponents’ fatal flaw, like a bully seizing on his victim’s defining insecurity. But, like most of the skills attributed to Trump, this talent was grossly overstated: His digs have always been one-note, too broad, and his attempts at incisive monikers for Joe Biden in 2020 have failed to register. The magic isn’t gone—it was never there to begin with.

    What does it really look like to expose a politician for who they are? It was Michelle Obama on Monday night, speaking at the virtual Democratic National Convention. Of course, she didn’t hurl puerile insults at the president—she didn’t need to. But she also didn’t need any rhetorical flourishes to lacerate him—no jokey jabs, no grand metaphors. All she needed was five simple words, words the president himself had used just this month to describe the rising COVID death toll : “It is what it is.”

    For all his autocratic aspirations, Trump is no political wizard. He is, as Obama nailed him in her incisive, effortless takedown, a fraud, an incompetent in completely over his head, degrading the national discourse and flexing authoritarian muscles not because he’s an evil genius, but because he’s so thoroughly inadequate, so “unable to meet the moment,” that those strongman tactics are all he’s got. “He simply cannot be who we need him to be for us,” she said in her rousing address Monday. “It is what it is.”

    The searing speech clearly struck a nerve with the president, who rattled off a series of desperate rebuttals against the former first lady and Barack Obama, one of the headliners for Wednesday’s DNC programming.








    In one tweet, he asked that somebody “explain to [Obama] that Donald J. Trump would not be here, in the beautiful White House, if it weren’t for the job done by your husband, Barack Obama.” In another, he attempted to ding his predecessor and Joe Biden over their “weak and pathetic” response to the H1N1 flu, which left roughly 12,000 Americans dead, as opposed to the coronavirus pandemic that has killed over 170,000 Americans and counting. In another still, Trump made some familiar noises about supposed Obama administration corruption, deep state figures spying on his campaign, and treason, before somewhat incomprehensibly thanking Michelle Obama for her “very kind words.” In an appearance at the White House later Tuesday morning, he lashed out again, saying she was “in over her head” and criticizing her for pre-recording the speech, noting that she had “the wrong [coronavirus] deaths”—calling attention to the fact that the death count is now far higher than it was when she taped her address.

    These frenzied retorts, though, only proved the former first lady’s point — that this is a man who just simply does not have it. As the New Yorker’s Emily Nussbaum pointed out Tuesday, that observation, however obvious it may seem, is perhaps a more damaging indictment than any that focuses on his sadism. That cruelty is a defining feature, and likely a draw for his supporters. Trump may be brutal, but it’s targeted at those his base considers enemies. In correctly observing that there’s nothing else behind that meanness—no substance or grand plan or basic competence, just emptiness and neediness and pettiness—Obama takes all the air out of him. “One of the smartest aspects of [Obama’s] speech is that instead of denouncing him as evil, she correctly nailed him as weak & incompetent, ill-prepared for the job, an insecure fake,” Nussbaum observed on Twitter. “Much more damning—& accurate, especially on COVID.”

    Obama on Monday distilled Trump to his essence in a way he has never quite been able to with his rivals. That much became clear after the DNC’s first night, when the president’s campaign released an email to supporters mocking other speakers who shared “FAKE NEWS” about him with lame little monikers: Bernie Sanders was “crazy,” Amy Klobuchar was a “failed presidential candidate,” Andrew Cuomo was “Fredo’s brother,” and Michigan Governor Gretchen Whitmer was “‘Half’ Whitmer.” The only speaker the campaign denounced without a derisive nickname? Michelle Obama.
     
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    I think republicans will be watching Biden's speech to see how bad he fucks it up, even after editing it to the best possible version.
     
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    No debates and taped speech's are Biden's only hope in appearing acceptable.
     
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    They should just have Max Headroom as Joe Biden. Same thing.
     
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    you just nailed our political issues on the head

    instead of the masses of voters actually wanting to be as informed as possible on all sides, they fall in line with thier party Nd close eyes and ears to anything else.

    what i find hilarious is the percent of people who just know with all certainty they are on the right side when they refuse to listen to the other side.

    its this stance that is basically destroying everything.
     
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    Trump rage tweeted in all caps after Obama spoke. So I think the ratings were just fine
     
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    I haven't watched one minute of it because I don't have to. Biden gets my vote no matter what. I'm not alone in this thought process.

    These GOP and their "ratings" rants are so hollow and pathetic......not to mention misleading.
     
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    Sooo you are part of the problem....?
     

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