Politics The Postal Service, Voting, and Covid

Discussion in 'Blazers OT Forum' started by wizenheimer, Jul 28, 2020.

  1. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    116,455
    Likes Received:
    114,459
    Trophy Points:
    115
    I don't understand it either. I'm guessing there are a lot more old Trump voters than Biden voters. Making it easier for them to vote during a pandemic seems like common sense.

    Actually I take that back. I do understand it. Trump thinks the path to victory is to invalidate the election.
     
    andalusian, riverman and Chris Craig like this.
  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    116,455
    Likes Received:
    114,459
    Trophy Points:
    115
    If the post office was sooooo inefficient why hasn't UPS or Fedex started offering regular letter delivery?

    Because there is no profit in it.
     
    BigGameDamian and Chris Craig like this.
  3. TorturedBlazerFan

    TorturedBlazerFan Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Jan 31, 2018
    Messages:
    19,824
    Likes Received:
    23,356
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Baby Daddy
    Location:
    Chasing my kids
    It's hard to gauge because of echo chambers, and bias' and all that goes on, but I think the 'civil unrest' and protesting that continues to happen is a huge Trump campaign ad. There is also a ton of studies and evidence that show, prolonged protesting has been very good for 'republicans' come election time. They had so much good momentum, but I think it's past diminishing returns to negative returns at this point.
    https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2015/05/new-study-shows-riots-make-america-conservative.html
    https://www.iwf.org/2020/06/09/follow-the-science-riots-dont-work/

    It'll be interesting, because obviously, 'law and order' coming from someone who is so divisive and likes to break the law is kinda funny...
    Part of the media is working overtime to say how bad the protests are and other parts of the media are working overtime to say how peaceful they are.

    The left's playbook is how crappy Trump is and how divisive he is. The right's playbook is look at all these major cities and the problems they're having if you let them take over the whole country will look like that.
    Not agreeing or disagreeing with that stuff, but it's going to be interesting how things progress the next couple of months.
     
    Last edited: Aug 21, 2020
    Orion Bailey likes this.
  4. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    It's not an either/or. That article seems to suggest that some amount of decommissioning happens every year, but the volume of sorters decommissioned this year is much larger. I don't doubt that the post office has gradually stepped down infrastructure with falling rates of usage--but the fact that suddenly a much larger amount of infrastructure was removed, just ahead of an election that's expected to have record mail-in balloting, under a President who's explicitly stated he's an enemy of mail-in balloting and also said he blocked funding to the post office to prevent mail-in balloting, seems to point to a purpose beyond a long-range, politically neutral plan.
     
  5. crandc

    crandc Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 15, 2008
    Messages:
    18,233
    Likes Received:
    23,475
    Trophy Points:
    113
    When packages pile up and rot, it's not reduced demand.
     
    ehizzy3 and Chris Craig like this.
  6. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,271
    Likes Received:
    28,747
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    As I read it, the equipment being removed is for letters, not packages. The plan is to remove unnecessary sorting equipment for letters (which is a falling percentage of mail) so that they can increase handling equipment for packages (which is an increasing percentage of mail). Doing it during an election year when there is likely to be an increased need for letter sorting is massively stupid, politically nefarious, or both. I'm thinking option C at this point because that fits Trump's usual mode of operation.
     
    Orion Bailey and SlyPokerDog like this.
  7. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,946
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Trump stole the 2016 election by conspiring with the Russians. First Mueller says so and then the Republican controlled Senate committee says so. As someone in here so eloquently put it, case closed.
     
  8. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,946
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Almost 60% of the revenue comes from the letters as of 2018.
     
  9. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    I don't disagree with you that Trump broke the law to collude with the Russians, I just don't think that's what won him the election.
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  10. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,946
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    There were multiple reasons why he squeaked by. The Russia collusion was just one of them. They all added up to an Electoral College victory. Any one of the multiple reasons missing would have meant a Trump loss.
     
  11. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    20,923
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    113
    nefarious....I like uncommon words, with just a hint of pretension. That's sublime
     
    Lanny and e_blazer like this.
  12. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    20,923
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    113
    I think the under-reported story is that Jill Stein was part of the collusion. She was at both of the dinners in Moscow that Flynn was at

    and Comey launched a torpedo at Hillary's broadside at the perfect time...for trump
     
  13. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,271
    Likes Received:
    28,747
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    I shall try to regale you with more. Always good to keep wizenheimers amused.
     
    wizenheimer likes this.
  14. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

    Joined:
    Oct 19, 2008
    Messages:
    20,923
    Likes Received:
    32,817
    Trophy Points:
    113
    good policy

    allright, I'll start it....

    Q: how many wizenheimers does it take to screw in a light bulb?

    A:.....?
     
    riverman likes this.
  15. e_blazer

    e_blazer Rip City Fan

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    23,271
    Likes Received:
    28,747
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Consultant
    Location:
    Oregon City, OR
    Trick question. Ordinarily, the answer would be 5. One to hold the lightbulb and four to turn the step ladder. However, having monitored your posting habits over the past few years, I know the correct answer is: Who gives a fuck?
     
    GoBlazersGo likes this.
  16. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    A plethora.
     
    Lanny likes this.
  17. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

    Joined:
    Oct 5, 2008
    Messages:
    116,455
    Likes Received:
    114,459
    Trophy Points:
    115
     
    wizenheimer and Minstrel like this.
  18. riverman

    riverman Writing Team

    Joined:
    Nov 15, 2013
    Messages:
    66,375
    Likes Received:
    64,528
    Trophy Points:
    113
    zero because you'd just throw out the lamp and buy a new one
     
    SlyPokerDog likes this.
  19. Minstrel

    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

    Joined:
    Sep 16, 2008
    Messages:
    26,226
    Likes Received:
    14,405
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    User Interface Designer
    Location:
    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Exactly what I was thinking of.
     
    SlyPokerDog and riverman like this.
  20. Lanny

    Lanny Original Season Ticket Holder "Mr. Big Shot"

    Joined:
    Sep 15, 2008
    Messages:
    26,638
    Likes Received:
    16,946
    Trophy Points:
    113
    Occupation:
    Elec. & Computer Engineer OSU Computer Science PSU
    Location:
    Lake Oswego, OR
    Words are tools. We need to use the best tools in our tool kits to convey our thoughts accurately.
     

Share This Page