If Paul was still alive...

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  1. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    We would have blown this shit up by now.

    Does anyone else think that Neil is taking advantage of the fact that Jody is new to this and not as knowledgeable as Paul? Who would even be around to fire Neil at this point?
     
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    Don't presume to know what a dead man might have done.
     
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    jlprk The ESPN mod is insane.

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    A religious thread not started by ABM! BobWhitsittsGhost lost his tongue in the hellfire.
     
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    I heard dead men vote
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Paul was extremely impatient. I shall presume away!
     
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    Counterpoint: Mo Cheeks was the head coach for FOUR seasons.
     
  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Counter counter point, that team didn't have anyone as close to as talented as Dame.
     
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    Tacky thread. If he did nothing after we got swept by Pelicans, why would he have made major changes after a WCF run?
     
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    If someone wants to argue for firing a GM who drafted Gary Trent Jr and swung deals for Kanter, Seth Curry and Melo, go ahead. If someone wants to argue for firing a coach the players, especially Dame, respect, who got the team to WCF last year and improbable playoff run this year, it's still a semi free country. But those are your views. Let Paul Allen rest in peace.
     
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    what if someone wants to argue for firing a GM who offered max contracts to Roy Hibbert, Greg Monroe, and Chandler Parsons; made a max-MLE offer to Spenser Hawes; gave 75 million to Allen Crabbe and 70 million to Evan Turner; drafted and gave a big extension to Meyers Leonard; saddled the franchise with 4 years of terrible contracts and left a team with a losing record the highest payroll in the league; missed an opportunity to draft Giannis; traded for Kent Bazemore; "swung deals" for Tolliver & Hezonja; has refused to add a backup PG; and allowed this season to hinge on the production of Zach and Simons....?

    yeah, I know we could go back and forth on this...but you went forth first...:)
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    You mean the man who was gun shy about trading anyone away because of Jermaine O'Neal?

    The same man who had Nate McMillan as a coach, and had almost no off season success?

    I really doubt the team would be in any different shape.
     
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    They had a good team.
    I remember watching a practice run by Cheeks. I've never seen a practice that slovenly. He didn't even seem to care whether you participated or not. He was just too easy going.
    No, Cheeks has to be in the running for the worst coach we've ever had and certainly the worst since Cheeks.
     
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    PA rode the Dame Train. He has been dead less than 2 years(RIP). I dont think you are correct on this assumption.
     
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    julius Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Cheeks is the worst coach they've had since Cheeks?

    I know he sucked, but I didn't realize he sucked THAT bad.
     
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    Argue coach and GM all you like, just acknowledge they are YOUR arguments.
     
  16. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I can speculate what I think Paul would have done.

    The main point of contention is that I don't think Jody has the experience yet to fire anyone. Or can I not talk about that either?
     
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    Minstrel Top Of The Pops Global Moderator

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    Vulcan is still in charge of the Blazers, among other things, and likely hasn't changed much in terms of personnel since Paul Allen passed away. Jody Allen likely has plenty of advisors to help her assess the Blazers and the job Olshey and Stotts are doing. It's not like Paul Allen was some deeply experienced basketball mind--he surely relied on advisors too.
     
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    PAUL IS DEAD!!!!! I don't care how many times you listen to Abbey Road backwards!
     
  19. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Paul was very involved though. Some owners are too involved (like Sacramento) but I worry that we don't have a driving force in the franchise. Do you trust Vulcan to make the tough decisions?
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    About as much as I trust most ownership teams. I mean, I realize Allen was involved, but how involved was Vulcan? How much do they differ from other ownership teams? I don't have an overwhelmingly positive or negative impression of them--the Blazers have been run okay, but not exceptionally well. The Seahawks were run exceptionally well for a little while and now they've declined to "okay" also.
     

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