Rumor SPURS TO TRADE LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE TO PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS, DEMAR DEROZAN TO MIAMI HEAT

Pretty sure you cant have two non-guaranteed years on Whitesides contract, and San Antonio is not gonna overpay Whiteside just to trade Aldridge, especially for multiple years.

 

So hypothetically you guys think a lineup of...

Dame
CJ
Melo
LA
Nurk

Gets us to the finals? I don’t see it.

 

That team would play even less defense than the team we had this year.

 

Without Ariza... what's the trade? Also I'm not saying that LMA would want this to be "his" team but he would definitely want to be seen as the number two guy. The idea that he would come off the bench and have a good attitude about it flies in the face of everything we know about LaMarcus and we know LMA very well. It also makes me a little sick thinking about bringing 24 mil off the bench even if it is only for one season, don't forget that we got Hassan to start not to be a back up for a full season. Oh and I still don't know what several points you were disagreeing with me on. Are you saying he is as good or even close to as good as he was when he left? Are you saying that he now has a new winners mentality? Are you saying he's still effective at the 4 at his age and with the way the game has evolved? Are you saying that LMA doesn't still see himself as underestimated but are you also at the same time saying that he isn't incredibly mercurial in his performance with all of it depending on his mood? I'm sure him and Dame could co-exist, Dame could get along with any player in the league who isn't 2015 LaMarcus Aldridge and even then it was LMA that had the problem not Dame.

 

Wow that lineup, given how much Stotts plays his starters, gives up 140 points a game. I mean everyone can score but also no one would be happy with the amount of touches they were getting except Dame who should be the only one who cares about how many touches he's getting.

 

Actually, I was curious about that before I posted so I checked the CBA FAQ page:

"A sign-and-trade deal can be made with a free agent who has been renounced (see question number 39), as long as all the above criteria are met. Sign-and-trade contracts must be for at least three seasons (not including any option year) and no longer than four seasons3. The first year of the contract must be fully guaranteed, but the remaining seasons can be non-guaranteed. The combination of a three-year minimum with a one-year guarantee ensures that the player's new team cannot acquire the player's Bird rights any sooner than if they had signed him directly (if they wanted to re-sign him in less than three years they would first have to waive him, and lose any Bird rights -- see question number 32)."

 

The trade is Hassan on a 3-year $20M contract with only the first year guaranteed, plus the Blazers #16 first round draft pick for LMA's remaining one year deal.

I'm saying that you can pair LMA with either Collins or Melo and the same with Nurk. Guys are going to have to be on board with getting minutes and not worrying about who's starting. Either Aldridge buys in on that or it's not going to happen.

 

The lineup probably starts as:

Dame
CJ
Ariza
LA
Nurk

But after 5 minutes or so you bring in Collins or Melo at the PF spot and then rotate from there on out.

 

San Antonio isnt going to sign Whiteside for $20M...

 

Offensively, obviously LMA is a huge upgrade and I mean a monumental upgrade over Zach... I just don't think that LMA can defend the 4 anymore and I know Zach can. Also Zach is definitely going to get better than what we saw from him in his limited bubble stint... that's for sure. How much better, I don't know. What I do know is at the same time LMA is definitely going to get worse... that is also for sure. I think in a magical world without a salary cap but still knowing that you had to pay each guy his salary... San Antonio would jump at the opportunity to trade LaMarcus for Zach straight up and I would be pissed if we did it.

 

We need to blow this team up and see what we can put around Dame. Everyone else is on the table.

 

You think that they'd rather pay $24M to LA? They save $4 million and get the Blazer's first round pick.

 

Well, that's not happening.

 

Yes. We already saw what Stotts can do with Aldridge. Nothing will change as long as we have Stotts.

Moderators, the thread title is a lie. You should modify it, like by adding "Speculation about..." or "Article promotes..."

 

Regardless of whether the Spurs would actually move Aldridge for nothing I just think it's the wrong direction for the team.

What the Blazers need are two way wings that can switch on defense. They don't even need to be good offensively, they just need to not be a non-factor. Ariza is good. Aldridge (and Mel0), who's value comes mostly on the offensive end, are just the wrong direction IMO.

 

As long as LeBron and AD are in LA and have Howard at C, the title goes through LA and small ball isn't going to get it done. Besides, the Blazers would have Ariza, Hood, Little, Trent, and Hoard to throw in on small units against teams where that's needed.

 

Besides luxury tax implication... fuck it if LMA was on board to come off the bench and be like our 5th or 6th scoring option and we could confirm that without tampering and San Antonio wanted to pay Hassan 20 million dollars even for one season then sure, sign me up but understand all of those things are completely unrealistic... I mean every part of that scenario is incredibly unlikely. When LaMarcus says he would want to play with Dame again he's saying he would do that as the Robin to Dame's Batman not as Captain Atom in a Justice League where Dame is Superman, if you think otherwise then I don't think you've been paying attention to LaMarcus for the last 14 years... including the last three or four.

Actually wait... I'm not sure it's worth the 16th pick. Make it our second rounder this year and two other second rounders in the future and all of that other shit and then I'm in.

 

Don't think the Lakers are the presumptuous favorites, and even if they were, you need someone to guard LeBron first.

That list you just gave is a horrendously sad poo poo platter of wings. Ariza is good but getting older, Trent is good but he's not guarding bigger 3s and 4s. Hood was never a good defender and coming off injury. Little.....they used a first round pick on a long term project but he better start producing soon. Hoard I'm not even going to start. We were close to the worst defensive team in the league with these guys.

Over Stott's tenure, the only time he's had a decent defensive team were the Batum/Matthews days and one year with Harkless/Aminu. I suggest following that model as long as Dame/CJ are your starting backcourt playing 35+ MPG per game.

 

Not sure how it's completely unrealistic to offer the Spurs, who want to go into a complete rebuild, the opportunity to save $4 million, get a first round pick, and lose more games. You know, we've all seen deals happen around the NBA that people would have said would never happen. Perhaps we should be a bit less quick to use the "that's completely unrealistic tag" when none of us message board geeks have the first idea as to what's realistic. Teams do things for a variety of reasons. How "realistic" was it for the Blazers to dump Clyde for basically squat?

 

Yes because they could get back more useful players than Whiteside and a 1st round pick.

When have you ever heard of a team overpaying a free agent in order to trade someone to that fee agents former team? Its never happened. It doesnt work like that.