Rumor SPURS TO TRADE LAMARCUS ALDRIDGE TO PORTLAND TRAIL BLAZERS, DEMAR DEROZAN TO MIAMI HEAT

So after seeing the lack of perimeter defense, people want to trade our two big, all-around wings for a 35 year old C and play him at PF? Olshey isn't that dumb.

 

Yeah, you don't "trade" your own free agents in a sign-and-trade. Another team has to agree with Whiteside on the parameters of a contract before even knowing if Portland would want to trade.

So all of these things would have to happen in this exact order:

SA pursues Whiteside in free agency.

SA wants to pay him more than they have available with cap space or the MLE.

Whiteside would have to want to sign with SA for that amount.

SA on top of wanting to sign Whiteside would also want to give something up to get him.

Then Portland would have to want to give up whatever SA is asking for.

Oh and on top of that in a sign-and-trade the player has to get a 3 year contract. Now you can word it so there is some non-guaranteed money or something but Whiteside would have to agree to that too.

 

We can, it just doesn't fit his argument.

 

Like Bones said, all of our wing depth for someone who wouldn't be a good fit at PF.

Yeah, I consider that gutting the team.

 

Wrong. You have still never given me an example of a team that traded their own free agent instead of another team wanting to sign him first.

 

Who are you talking about regarding our wings? From my point of view the only guy on that list that I would consider to be a safe bet to be a contributor next season is Ariza. Hood is coming off a serious injury in which the vast majority of players that come back are not the same. Plus, his defense was never good. It wasn't good for the 21 games he played last season, and it wasn't good for the previous 300+ games in his career.

Little and Simons I'm confident will become rotation players at some point. I'm not very confident it's next year, or it will come in their first contract.

Mario.....we would be lucky to dump his salary.

So for me the trade in terms of immediate contributions is basically Ariza for Aldridge. Aldridge is clearly the better player, although I'd rather keep Ariza and the flexibility to make other moves. But it's not so ridiculous that it couldn't happen.

 

I don't know what your idea of wing depth is, but I consider it players that will actually contribute. And we'd only be moving one of those players.

 

Wrong, Eric tells it how it is, and is the more knowledgeable about the CBA and roster-building than anyone on this forum. He wouldnt be saying it if it wasn't true.

 

I don't agree with your valuation of Hood at all. His game isnt athleticism-based. He'll be fine. And it seems like you want to build a team who's bottom 5 in defense again.

 

yeah i dont really wanna re-watch this movie, we know how it ends - people get upset and disappointed.

 

What SF's would we have left on our roster?

 

People get mad at Olshey for doing something that wasn't possible.

 

What the hell, am I your research assistant?

Other poster correctly said it met the rules and I agree. Examples or lack of examples dont make something possible you seem to wish impossible.

But I'll give a fun example for your game, Keith Van Horn.

 

Trent and presumably Melo, which is what they ran with for the entirety of the seeding games and the playoffs.

And again, I'm not arguing for Aldridge, I've said that multiple times. I'm on the record for saying we need more switchy wings that aren't non-factors on offense (like Aminu/Harkless were). But I'm also not the front office. The one that seemed to think Zach would be our starting PF of the future. Who was okay going into the season with Kent Bazemore as our backup SF, or presumably think Melo is good for the team (I don't know if they'll bring him back, but I would 100% not be surprised if they do).

All I'm saying is you guys are acting like it's completely out of the realm of possibility, and I just don't agree with that based on what Neil has done in the past.

And again, depth is only good if they can actually play rotation minutes. I don't think we're really giving up much wing depth outside of Ariza (who I quite like).

 

He gave opinions of why it's unlikely, not a rule of why it can't happen.

 

Sigh

 

Are you even reading? I'm not advocating for Aldridge, just saying it's not as far fetched out of the realm of possibility as you guys are making it seem.

 

It's never happened, and the order of events that need to happen to execute a sign-and-trade arent structured in a way for what you're suggesting to be possible.

 

Of course you trade your own free agent in a S&T. Sure, all 3 parties have to agree to the parameters of the deal, but it is directly signing and immediately trading your own free agent. I don’t know where this idea that there’s a requirement of some precursor deal between the Spurs and Whiteside comes from.

 

I dont think theres any way Olshey does that. If he does, I'll be 200% on the Fire Olshey bandwagon.