Dame mad about Barton trade for years

From this article:

 

Think this is on Olshey's mind as he considers trading CJ?

 

Olshey will not trade CJ

 

it shouldn't be.

what should be in his mind is that all his bargain shopping and dumpster diving isn't doing a damn thing to alter Portland's trajectory. And all his fucking around with the lower levels of the rotation aren't either. The problem is at the top of the rotation

he needs to either do his job, resign, or start forwarding most of his salary to Dame if he's going to defer tough decisions because Dame might object. Dame doesn't have one year left on his contract and the resulting leverage like PG13 or Kawhi or Butler or Giannis. He has 5 more years. What's Dame going to do....pout for 5 years if CJ is traded? Is that the kind of person he is? I don't think so

 

I also think it's why Stotts is still here.

 

Yea this is where Dame hurts the organization by wanting to keep his friends (cj and stotts) rather than seeing the bigger picture.

 

Don't say that here you could be called a hater.

 

I think Dame has decided that he would rather lose with his friends than win with better players.

 

Why did Dame wait three years before meeting with Allen about a trade that happened 3 years ago?

 

Dame had more issues in that meeting than the Barton trade. And it wasn't the freaking Barton trade-- it was the Afflalo trade. I hate how people make so much out of that shit. Franchise players meeting with owners is not that big of a deal.

 

Did Dame meet with Paul to express his frustration because it was a terrible trade or because he traded his friend?

probably a mixture of both but hopefully more of the former than the latter

 

That was just part of the discussion, not the reason for the meeting:

https://www.espn.com/nba/story/_/id...lillard-meets-owner-paul-allen-team-direction

 

Also, with regards to the main point of that article, it irrationally bugs me how much the media is pushing this narrative that Giannis should leave.

Dude is just in his maybe third year as the franchise cornerstone. He got to the conference finals last year and lost to the Champion. His team is still in the middle of a comeback effort in the second round this series. They have the 2nd highest payroll in the league (even if they made a blunder in letting Brogdan go last summer). But he hasn't once said anything to the media about going elsewhere and came out firing on all cylinders with a bum ankle last game to try to will his team back. Yet even in the middle of the game, you have idiots like Reggie Miller and Chris Webber questioning his future with the team.

Just fucking annoying. I would love to have him in Portland, but this has to be infuriating for Bucks fans.

 

Why Dame is close to that hack Chris Haynes I can never figure out. He might be the worst NBA journalist out there. Always making mountains out of molehills while writing like shit. Seriously, his pieces are like that of a 6th grader.

 

well, there are "players' coaches"....coaches who get along with players and have good relationships

so, it makes sense there are players' reporters. They don't have to be great journalists or writers if they can develop relationships with players and manage not to piss those players off. Haynes has been able to walk that tightrope

kind of like how Woj has been able to walk the tightrope with GM's and owners

 

Think that's oversimplifying it. It's not binary. Dame has repeatedly stayed out of trade conjecture before moves are done.

Here is him at the deadline this season:https://theathletic.com/1559813/202...ment-to-portland-and-more-in-blazers-mailbag/

Key takeaways:
- He would not be opposed to moves to "take us to the championship."
- Trades have nothing to do with his commitment to the team.
- He lets Neil do his job.

Here's another: https://www.sbnation.com/nba/2019/2/20/18233101/damian-lillard-trade-request-title-blazers

It's more empathy than deciding to "lose with friends."

 

I truly believe Dame would say fuck it, I'll see him or them whenever I want on the off season and in retirement if he got a chance to play, here, with a guy like Giannis and an alright supporting cast. I've heard Dame talk about how he wants to stay here as long as the team will have him like Dirk (remember Dirk's team was always changing), I've never heard Dame talk about any other single player he wouldn't be cool with being traded to make the team better and I've also heard him say a ton of times that this is a business and he understands that.

 

good job with that post

my take is that posters that retreat behind the "Dame wouldn't like this or that" narrative are being lazy or trying to squelch discussion, and basically defending inaction by the GM. That includes trades and coaching decisions

 

I'd say it's equally as lazy to blame inaction on Dame not wanting his friends moved as it is defending the inaction.

 

did I do that?