Rumor What's going on in Portland?

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  1. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Well, it is Canby...that shit hole is a shit hole for a reason. ;)
     
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  2. SlyPokerDog

    SlyPokerDog Woof! Staff Member Administrator

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    ABM has showed growth, it's just not in a direction that you personally agree with.
     
  3. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I don't care if he votes for trump, I don't care if he thinks biden is a creepy rapist..I do care that facts and the dictionary don't seem to apply to his thought process.
     
  4. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Ted Wheeler is an abject failure as Mayor of Portland, OR. I don't have to have any more evidence than what I've been reading, hearing, and seeing. This is 2020. We ALL make evaluations without having to be in one particular place, moment, and/or time. I'm really not certain why you want to keep hammering on this point. It's become a bit nonsensical, at best.

    You know what, though? This will all be moot when he gets tossed by the voters in November. Y'all won't have ol' Ted to kick around anymore.

    As to @SlyPokerDog thinking I care about the Mayor of Portland, OR too much? OK, well, I was born and raised there, so there's that. I do still have family and friends there, so there's that. Moreover, I've been responding to comments and assertions by julius and others ad nauseam, so there's that, too.

    It is interesting that nearly 2/3 of Portland wants Wheeler gone. It's plain to see....from even 2,000 miles away. This horse is pretty much mincemeat.
     
  5. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I didn't think citing examples was too high of a bar to expect, but apparently it is.

    Let's try this another way.

    "I think Donald Trump is an abject failure as President"

    "why?"

    "my family tells me he is and I've read things"

    "So what in your opinion makes him an abject failure?"

    "I've read things and my family has told me stuff"

    "Like what?"

    "Listen, I'm allowed to have my opinion"

    "I'm not saying you aren't allowed to have an opinion, I just would hope you'd actually be able to express why it is you have it."

    "I believe it because my family has told me that he is, and I've read stuff. I don't know what more I can tell you"

    "you could tell me one example. Like, you could say how he downplayed Covid 19, made fun of someone with a disability, lies a lot, calls people names, seems to blame victims for them being victims, and seems to put the interests and desires of foreign dictators ahead of that of the United States. That's just off the top of my head"

    "Well like I said, my family told me this, and I believe them"

    "told you WHAT?"

    "That he's an abject failure as President."

    "I give up. "

    "Apology accepted"





    In a nutshell, using a circular argument is a lazy way to go through life.
     
  6. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    You think Donald Trump is an abject failure as POTUS because you've read stuff and people tell you things.

    OR, perhaps, you don't think he's an abject failure as POTUS for whatever reason.

    Stuff like this leads to wagers. ;)
     
  7. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    that sound you hear was the point flying over your head.
     
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  8. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I get all your so-called points. Parsing every jot and tittle of each conversations/debates gets a bit weary, though.

    So, you don't think Trump is an abject failure as POTUS?
     
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    Propagandist Well-Known Member

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    It'll get you everytime...and I know (actually) firsthand.
     
  10. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    Says the Propagandist. ;)
     
  11. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    You DO realize don’t you that the supreme irony to your opinions is that while Ted Wheeler is probably not going to be reelected, his successor (Sarah Iannarone anyone?) is HIGHLY likely to be farther to the left than even Ted is. Careful what you wish for in a city that is no longer yours........
     
  12. ABM

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    Hush. We're purchasing THE HCP's neighbor's home as an Air B&B.
     
  13. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    That isn't what we're talking about, nor is it really a relevant point. All you think you are doing by bringing him up is trying to change the target of the discussion.

     
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  14. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I'm not sure she'll get elected, and I'm not so sure he won't get re-elected.
     
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    I bought him up because you used him as an example. I then had the right to cross-examine.
     
  16. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    I used it as an example so you'd maybe see it from a different perspective. that doesn't give you the 'right' to do anything other than think "oh hey, I can now see why what I said might have been perceived differently than what I intended. Maybe I will change how I say what I mean, or look into the subject more and be more educated on the situation."

    But instead you saw it as a potential 'gotcha! I am right, I am right, I am riiiiiiiiight!"
     
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  17. ABM

    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I have an OPINION:

    Ted Wheeler is an abject failure as Mayor of Portland, OR.

    There are plenty other who share my same opinion. It will manifest itself come November.
     
  18. UncleCliffy'sDaddy

    UncleCliffy'sDaddy We're all Bozos on this bus.

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    In my opinion the mayor of Nashville (Whoever that might be) is an abject failure. I’m sure there are plenty of others who share my opinion. But then, I don’t live there so who really gives two shits about my opinion?
     
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  19. julius

    julius I wonder if there's beer on the sun Staff Member Global Moderator

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    No one is denying that you have an opinion. what I'm doing is asking you to answer the simple question of "yeah, but why?"


    You think he is a failure as the mayor. But why do you feel that way? Outside of "my family tells me so".

    And you seem to think I'm a fan of Wheeler. I'm not. I didn't vote for him. But the difference is, I've stated reasons why I think he's a bad mayor, you haven't.
     
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    He certainly isn't my fave, either. Democrat, as well.
     

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