Politics It's gonna get awful quiet in here by the far Right in two weeks

nah she just made a handful for the family.

 

I learned a long time ago that some people, regardless of evidence to to contrary which completely disproves their stance, will still stubbornly deny the simple and obvious truth of an argument...sadly, in many cases, if someone tries hard enough they will vainly try to justify just about anything.

 

I saw what you did there...kudos.

 

Oh FFS.

 

I love asking Trump people for one thing Trump has done for them. It usually comes out to 401ks or something.

 

What, no love for "the wall"?

 

i see that. I get that. I didnt vote for him.

i believe in innocent until proven guilty. He has not been convicted. He can talk all the vulgar filth he wants and will go down as the worst pres ever. But saying grab them by the pussy is not sexual assault. Actually doing it is.
Saying I've done it is not... unless its true.
Yes i do believe its locker room talk and he has not forcibly grabbed a pussy of a woman who wasn't receptive.
When actual real proof.. court admissible evidences presents itself and/or a conviction of such acts, ill then believe him guilty.
Im not judge and jury. And neither are any of you. But you all can continue slammin me for sticking to facts and not letting my emotions deter my judgement.

 

You're fixated on one portion of a very long statement. Sexual assault includes kissing someone without consent.

 

of course it does. And i think when he said he just kisses them it was in the same veign as just grab them by the pussy.

 

hats where your wrong. Im not defending him. Im maintaining a separation of facts vs opinions.

around here you are guilty until proven innocent and i just dont subscribe to that. Sorry i dont fit what you want me to be

 

aaahhhhh hahahaha. Welcome back Cup.

 

his own statements + sexual assault accusations by nearly 30 women + pics with Epstein pointing at girls + Miss Universe pageants/going backstage “because he owned the pageant” = guilty. Sorry. But if we can only deduce guilt by video evidence then we are being naive. If it looks like a duck and walks like a duck and all that. Let’s be real. If someone believes Trump hasn’t assaulted/made unwanted advances/physically/sexually touched women in his 74 years they are dumb.

 

Not trying to get back into it with you. But:

Not sure how that isn't your opinion on it either. Not accusing you of anything. I guess you could clarify if you want.

 

lol...as per usual, most conspiracy theories turn out to be neither accurate nor compelling.

 

Okay, when you're at odds with a lot of people then perhaps you should consider changing your position. Yes, it's a generalization but it's often true.

 

If you're talking to Sly, I consider him already pretty revolting.

 

I don't believe a man would say those things if he hadn't done them. Maybe it's just the people I associate with. Of course I'm young only in my 70s so I guess I might still meet someone like this. Yes, it's a possibility.

 

"If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck...."

 

It is my opinion. I never said I state my opinion as a fact. Opinions are able to be swayed... when in an open mind. However, as of now, It seems to me like locker room talk, false boasting, and generally just boys being boys.

Do not take this as I accept or think its okay. But I am not going to equate that as he is a sexual assaulter without some tangible proof. That's all. Until then, my opinion is its overblown locker room talk.

Now @calvin natt brought up 30 accusers and pics with jeff as other evidence to compound it quacking like a duck, blah blah blah.

But the thing is, and i'm not saying this is the case here, but it is a fact women have falsely accused people of this in spite. (this is where Crand can call me a misogynist like she did tortured, for saying the same thing, which is disgusting to do so), so without a conviction, he is still innocent of this. People have been trying to say he is a sexual offender for four years, and no conviction, no straight up proof. etc.

Regarding the picture with Jeffery, Clinton was with him too. Is he a sexual offender? Because they had connections and history doesn't mean the all engaged in the same things.

For example, The Clackamas mall shooter? I slept in his bed before he did what he did. I knew him. Poor boy. Despicable what he did, but the system failed him big time too. At any rate, It doesn't mean I did what he did or was involved. Guilt by association is a very dangerous thing.