Politics It's gonna get awful quiet in here by the far Right in two weeks

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  1. calvin natt

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    Yeah it’s almost like if we let every country who is a threat to us get away with what they want we don’t end up in conflict
     
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    Uh we have more home grown terrorists than ever before but go ahead
     
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    You said “that’s the problem with you folks, stuck in your silos”. I said “yeah like you aren’t”. Then you got confused.
     
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    theprunetang Shaedon "Deadly Nightshade" Sharpe is HIM

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    ABM Happily Married In Music City, USA!

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    I was called a racist in here. I've been called a racist in here. I swear, some of you have no knowledge of the meaning of the word. Granted, I've made impetuous comments here and there. Doesn't make me a racist.

    Wait. Hold on. Everyone's a racist in some form or fashion. Cuz they say we are. And they know.
     
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    MARIS61 Real American

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    No worries. I've got a pocketful of them.

    You called ABM a racist, and you've double and triple-downed on that baseless insult.

    ABM is frankly one of the nicest and most accepting people I've ever met on the internet, let alone this board, and you're not.

    I'm just going to leave it there.
     
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    You just open your mouth and non-facts spill out all over.

    Maybe if you wore a bib...?
     
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    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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  10. MARIS61

    MARIS61 Real American

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    Here's how you're being made a fool of by CSIS:

    American Thinker

    July 5, 2020
    How the Left Creates Fake Studies to Fabricate Right-Wing Terrorism
    By Bode Lang
    After weeks of violence, Democrats have some public relations needs to redirect attention away from the awfulness of leftism.

    Insert the latest report from the Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS), which concludes that the greatest domestic threat comes not from leftists or Muslims, but from right-wing terrorists!

    The CSIS study's findings are not new. The New America Foundation (NAF) and the Center of Investigative Reporting (CIR) have published similar studies with the same conclusions.

    Each study is fake, but the most recent CSIS study is the most pathetic of them all — partly because the CSIS doesn't provide a list of incidents to fact-check. Just trust them.

    There's an art to creating this type of propaganda, which provides the Democrat narrative a halo of credibility. A tremendous volume of subtle manipulation is concocted within studies on right-wing terrorism, and each demonstrates variations of the same basic formula.

    1. Use "incidents" as a key metric

    Written in the methodology of the CSIS study is this: "We coded threats of violence as attacks rather than plots, even if the threat turned out to be a hoax."

    This statement is an incredible admission. The CSIS includes threats of violence as terrorist attacks — even if the threat was a hoax.

    Such low standards for terrorism allow the authors to leverage vaguely defined "hate crime" data from the Anti-Defamation League and Southern Poverty Law Center to inflate right-wing occurrences.

    This way, NASCAR driver Bubba Wallace's paranoia could be counted as a terrorist threat.

    2. Manipulate definitions

    Each study is careful about the definitions for terrorism. The CIR defines right-wing terrorism as follows: "militia movements, as well as white supremacist, anti-government, anti-Muslim, anti-immigrant and anti-abortion extremists, including radical Christians."

    These are standard terms Democrats use to attack conservatives — which is the point. The definitions are deliberately vague to increase subjectivity.

    The NAF study uses the same broad criteria as the CIR.

    The latest CSIS study casts an even wider net for right-wing terrorism by including, "incels," "misogyny," and "hatred based on sexuality or gender identity; and/or opposition to certain policies such as abortion."

    Notice that they do not suggest merely opposition to abortion policies — but opposition to certain policies such as abortion. Basically, right-wing terrorists are defined as anyone who opposes the left, plus incels.

    For Muslim terrorists, the variables are much more rigid. The CIR criteria for Islamic terrorism is as follows:

    We use the term "Islamist" to describe theocratic extremists inspired by groups such as the Taliban, al-Qaida and the Islamic State. We chose the term "Islamist," rather than "Islamic," in an effort to uncouple the Muslim faith from the political ideology of Islamism.

    The first sentence limits Islamic terrorism only for violence from those with a clear connection to specific terrorist groups. The second sentence reminds us this is not a legitimate study.

    The NAF uses a similarly limited criteria for Islamic terrorism.

    Each study follows the same model of broad definitions for right-wingers but restrictive ones for Muslims.

    In a fatal self-own, the CIR implies that racism and Islamophobia are the cause of 84% of Islamic incidents resulting in terrorism charges, compared to only 9% of right-wingers. But this statistic reveals how deceptive these studies are. Most right-wing incidents don't result in terrorism charges because what they're calling terrorism for right-wingers, isn't terrorism.

    Fortunately, our legal system does not redefine words to achieve more equitable sentencing outcomes for the purpose of creating better propaganda (yet).

    3. Lone wolves are not terrorists

    By limiting Islamic terrorism only to cases with direct ties to specific terrorist groups, they define away "lone wolf" terrorist attacks and exclude them from the studies.

    The Washington mall shooter, Arcan Cetin, who killed five people in 2016? Lone wolf.

    Esteban Santiago, who killed five people at a Fort Lauderdale airport and told FBI agents he carried out the attack on behalf of ISIS? Lone wolf.

    The Beltway snipers, who killed ten people in 2001? Not terrorism.

    Stabbing two men at a mall in Minnesota, or pleading guilty to an ISIS-inspired plot to commit mass murder in Texas? Lone wolves.

    None of these incidents or fatalities at the hands of Islamic terrorists are included in the NAF or CIR studies. While the CSIS does not list their incidents, undoubtedly, they mimic the same restrictions.

    4. Apply inconsistently

    The NAF study enables anti-government statements to classify someone as a right-wing extremist.

    This flimsy definition does not apply to Muslim extremists.

    Yelling "down with the government" while carrying out an act of violence is enough to be counted as right-wing terrorism. However, a Muslim screaming "Allahu akbar" while committing the same violence is not sufficient to be an Islamic extremist.

    This tactic helps reduce Islamic terrorism while increasing occurrences of right-wing terrorism.

    5. Count violence unrelated to ideology

    While the CSIS study doesn't list specific terrorist acts, it discloses some sources — one of which is the Anti-Defamation League.

    This inflates numbers by including incidents committed by those who fit the ideological criteria, even if the acts were unrelated to ideology.

    For example, the ADL includes the murder of KKK member Frank Ancona, who was killed by his wife —also a KKK member. It's unlikely that Ancona's wife shot him in the name of white supremacy, but it counts as right-wing terrorism anyway.

    Another white supremacist, Edward Blackburn, murdered a white man dating his ex-girlfriend. Did he kill him to advance white supremacy? Unlikely.

    Two white supremacists in Georgia broke out of prison and killed two guards in the process. One guard was white and the other black. Were the guards killed for their skin color? Probably not.

    While the CSIS claims to have excluded non-ideological incidents, fatalities attributable to right-wing terrorism are significantly larger for CSIS than previous studies. Couple that with a complete lack of transparency, and that's enough to consider its claim a lie.

    The CIR study includes as right-wing terrorism Gavin Long, a black man, who killed three police officers in Louisiana. They describe Long as "influenced by black nationalist ideology and angry over the shooting of a black man by Baton Rouge police[.]"

    Long also tweeted a news story about Dallas shooter Micah Johnson (who assassinated five police officers at a BLM rally) and wrote that the shooter was "one of us! # MY Religion is Justice."

    What makes Gavin Long a right-wing terrorist? He didn't like police, and police work for the government, therefore he was an anti-government extremist.

    These are only a few examples of many similar cases.

    The timing of the studies is also peculiar. The NAF starts tracking deaths after 9/11, excluding 9/11 from the study. The CSIS starting tracking deaths in 1994, claiming that it selected that start date because it didn't have enough reliable data to track before 1994.

    A start date that begins just after the 1993 NYC bombings but just prior to the 1995 Oklahoma city bombings was purely a coincidence.

    Oh, and don't forget: Muslims are 1% of the American population, while these broad definitions of right-winger terrorists easily encompass 50% of Americans. To be proportionate, right-wing terrorism should be 50 times greater than Islamic terrorism. Best to omit any mention of that.

    Studies on right-wing terrorism are fake — they are nothing but propaganda.

    Most left-wing studies on other topics model the same framework: manipulate definitions and variables, fabricate data to fit or exclude based on the falsified definitions, and apply criteria inconsistently.

    https://www.americanthinker.com/art...studies_to_fabricate_rightwing_terrorism.html
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Interesting... where are you getting your numbers?

    US combat deaths in Afghanistan highest in years
    https://thehill.com/policy/defense/476461-us-combat-deaths-in-afghanistan-highest-in-years
     
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    I never accused you of racism, but mentioned it might be insensitive to continue using the word, and to continue might lead to rebuke.

    "The idea that there are some words that are notoriously offensive and some that aren't, and the burden on the employee shifts depending on that, really creates a lot of confusion in the workplace," said commission lawyer Michael Wood.

    "We think it's time to clarify that and have some ground rules so people know what's permissible and what isn't."

    During the inquiry hearings, several members of the Mi'kmaq community testified that "kemosabe" was a racial slur, although others said they were not offended by it.


    There is another theory that gives the word an entirely different meaning. Noting that tonto in Spanish means “stupid” or “crazy,” some people have pointed out that kemosabe sounds a lot like the Spanish phrase quien no sabe, “he who doesn’t understand.” (In Spanish-language versions of The Lone Ranger, Tonto is called Toro, Spanish for bull.) This suggests a whole different dynamic between the two characters. Is the Lone Ranger a racist who calls his partner an idiot? Is Tonto in turn being subversive when he addresses his white companion as an ignoramus?

    The truth: probably neither. As Chadwick Allen explains in “Hero with Two Faces: The Lone Ranger as Treaty Discourse,” this interpretation has mostly been pushed by American linguists who want to “locate Tonto ‘appropriately’ in the Pueblo southwest,” and there isn’t much evidence for it. But the theory has plenty of proponents regardless. Native American writer Sherman Alexie, who is of Coeur D’Alene descent, has said that kemosabe means “idiot” in Apache. “They were calling each other ‘idiot’ all those years,” he told an interviewer in 1996, a few years after the publication of his story collection The Lone Ranger and Tonto Fistfight in Heaven. “It’s always going to be an antagonistic relationship between indigenous people and the colonial people,” he added.
     
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    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    I've never been called a racist. I've never been accused of being a racist. What's it like?
     
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    What's your problem with farmers?.....you find grain silos depressing?
     
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    Strenuus Global Moderator Staff Member Global Moderator

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    Now why would you go and talk about yourself like that?
     
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    I guess we no longer have to speculate over who got ahold of "Hunter Biden's crack pipe!"
     
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    the stuff he posts here comes out of one of his orifices, but it's not his mouth
     
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    I don't know, fake guy, I'm not alone in my observations. And if you knew me, you'd have a hard time saying I'm not nice.
     
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    I already explain this, and it should go without saying, that I'm not talking about the word Kimosabe, but the pidgin English. And it is just another in a long line of things you've posted that are just unacceptable.
     

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