Politics Turning GA, NC, NV, and/or PA into victory (Biden vs Trump, 2020 election!)

Lawyers Litigating for Trump Suddenly Remember Their Licenses Are on the Line If They Lie to a Judge

There’s a big difference between a) waving around a stack of affidavits in a safe space and b) bringing your claims before a judge. We saw that difference on Tuesday in the Trump campaign’s case in Montgomery County, Pennsylvania.

President Donald Trump has repeatedly and falsely said from the get-go that he “won Pennsylvania by a lot.” Now that the election has been called for Joe Biden, lawyers for the president’s campaign and the Republican National Committee—some of them supposedly troubled—are in the uphill position of having to explain why they are in court.

It was apparent to legal commentators that one of the lawyers arguing the Montgomery County case before Common Pleas Judge Richard P. Haaz was not going to risk losing his law license by lying in court. Some also noted that sanctions may be issued where frivolous lawsuits have been filed.





As of right now, Biden is ahead by 46,000 votes in Pennsylvania, but the Trump campaign was in court litigating against the Montgomery County Board of Elections to discuss “approximately 600 ballots.” The actual number of ballots, as you’ll see, is 592. In Montgomery County, Biden is ahead by 130,000 votes.



The Trump campaign claimed that the Montgomery Board of Elections refused to abide legal requirements for canvassing and counting mail-in ballots “for which outer declaration envelope is not completed filled in with the elector’s signature, address and/or date of execution.”



On Tuesday, Judge Haaz promptly put Trump campaign attorney Jonathan S. Goldstein on the spot. The judge asked him point-blank if the campaign was actually alleging any fraud. Goldstein went to bat for President Trump while admitting that he was not alleging fraud, uttering the phrase (twice): “To my knowledge at present, no.” Legal experts said that Goldstein’s remarks were typical of a lawyer unwilling to risk sanctions or bar discipline in service of a client.



Other lawyers, some of them known for their affiliations with Democratic causes and the Biden campaign, noted that Goldstein’s remarks to the judge were in stark contrast to the president’s entirely unsupported “stolen” election narrative.



Here was the exchange in which Goldstein, without proof of fraud, asked that the ballots in question be thrown out for reasons of material technicality. The attorney noted that “accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step,” and it was a step he did not take:

THE COURT: In your petition, which is right before me — and I read it several times — you don’t claim that any electors or the Board of the County were guilty of fraud, correct? That’s correct?

MR. GOLDSTEIN: Your Honor, accusing people of fraud is a pretty big step. And it is rare that I call somebody a liar, and I am not calling the Board of the DNC or anybody else involved in this a liar. Everybody is coming to this with good faith. The DNC is coming with good faith. We’re all just trying to get an election done. We think these were a mistake, but we think they are a fatal mistake, and these ballots ought not be counted.

THE COURT: I understand. I am asking you a specific question, and I am looking for a specific answer. Are you claiming that there is any fraud in connection with these 592 disputed ballots?

MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present, no.

THE COURT: Are you claiming that there or improper influence upon the elector to these 592 ballots?

MR. GOLDSTEIN: To my knowledge at present. no.

THE COURT: Does it make a difference whether a claim of irregularity or technical noncompliance with the election code is made with or without an accompanying claim of fraud or improper influence?

MR. GOLDSTEIN: It does not. I mean, to claim the technical defects are immaterial, which is in some sense some of the thrust of what the DNC argued, is really to misperceive what is going on in the election code. The election code is technical. These requirements are all technical. And some of them sit in that code for reasons that are a mystery for all of us. I mean, I sort of recounted for you my view of why the elector signing in his own hand is material. The DNC have their reasons for why they think it is material or immaterial. The fact of the matter is, it is in the code. The code is itself technical. Those technicalities are part and parcel of the law and a violation of the results in a ballot that can’t be counted.​

The Trump campaign lawyer also declined to call Democrats and election officials in Pennsylvania liars. He said that everyone was acting “with good faith.”

The judge followed up by questioning Raymond McGarry, an attorney for the Montgomery Board of Elections. The judge noted that the ballots in question have been separated (“segregated”) from ballots that have been counted:

THE COURT: Before you begin, let me just start off with my questions. So there are subsets. There are 592 ballots which have been identified and segregated. You’ve identified, of that, 509 that have the voter’s address preprinted on the outer envelope, to the right of the voter’s declaration. There is a subset: 266 of those people put their addresses on the front of the envelope, not on the back, where probably it was indicated. Does that mean that for the other 243 of the 509 there’s no written address by the elector, there is just the printed address that the County put on the envelope?

MR. McGARRY: Your Honor, for that number that you just said, the answer to your question is that in addition to having the printed address, there also is the bar code, Your Honor. And the bar code scans to the SURE system with a specific identification of the voter involved, which would include their address. But in terms of handwriting the address on the outer envelope, you are correct.​

In summary, the Trump campaign appeared in court and they neither identified nor alleged any systemic fraud. The case focuses on 592 ballots that have not been counted in a county where the president is behind by 130,000 votes, and in a state where the president is behind by 46,000 votes.

The judge said he would issue a decision “certainly this week” and “probably” by Thursday.​

 

This is all a distraction.

Look at what's happening at DoD. He's trying to draw attention away from that.

 

I think Biden's last 47 years speak for what he's going to do: Zilch

 

I hate lies that are so easy to disprove. Takes the challenge out of it.

https://www.congress.gov/member/joseph-biden/B000444?searchResultViewType=expanded

 

^^^ ***Points, and giggles***^^^

Just love people who blindly regurgitate drivel they've read or heard without looking into it.

 

https://www.the-sun.com/news/178889...edium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly





TO HAVE AND TO HOLD
Melania Trump grips serviceman’s arm and NOT Donald’s at Arlington service as divorce suspicions swirl

 

this is just another thing that suggests trump and his spawn are considering starting a media company.

Trump TV: We Lie & Scam, You Fall For It

 

Doesn't he already have his own media company? If not he will. Trump has a lot of followers. Watch him run his own presidency out of Mar-A-Lago while Biden runs his out of the white house.

 

So basically they embarrassed themselves in Arizona and have yet to find any fraud in any state?

has anyone seen Trump yet? How are those daily security briefings going?

 

It's interesting how just recently some people worked so hard to stop the investigation about the attack on America's cyber security and democracy by the Russians and now some people are working so hard to invent investigations that will destabilize and remove trust from the American democracy.

I wonder if these 2 unpatriotic groups are one and the same.

 

Riight.. And it's been certified how many days now?

 

cry harder

 

Really? Anyone who considers Breitbart News a real “news” organization at this point is well.... missing a lot of stuff above the shoulders, just like their “leader”.

breitbart news is printing their own bullshit at this point, whether founded or completely unfounded. Whatever benefits them/Trump.

(Not directed at you BGD.)