Blazers TPE ($7,000,000)

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  1. Blazinaway

    Blazinaway Well-Known Member

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    My real focus is win now, Simons is a project but guys like Holmes/Bjelica would IMO really fit well and pretty much give us a very nice and deep front line and we'd still have the MLE and other smaller exceptions to add PG and wing depth
     
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    Agreed. He still needs to get a little stronger. I do think the shortened offseason might hurt a little.
    And I definitely think playing him at the point has hurt his development at SG. I guess it was worth the shot to see if he could do it, but that seldom works out. He needs to concentrate on just one position. I think he and Trent would be a great combo off the bench if they played with a true veteran point guard.
     
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    Depends. If we could get a huge coup for him because a team out there feels he has huge upside than it might be worth looking at.

    Simons is an undersized SG. He’ll never be a PG. I think he’ll have a productive NBA career eventually as a scorer. But I don’t see star qualities or anything. Maybe I’m wrong.

    CJ had 3 years of college and it still took him like 3 years in the league to start producing. Simons would be a junior in college if I remember right.
     
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    My vote is for Derrick Rose. He's got 1 year left on his deal, so not a long term commitment. Gives Detroit more cap room to go after someone like VanVleet and then re-sign Woods.
     
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    Never mind - Rose makes just over the TPE
     
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    Hope they use it. I have my doubts
     
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  7. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    The team seems to conduct itself like Dame is 25.
     
  8. illmatic99

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    they just traded two draft picks for a 30 yr old two days ago.

    Other teams have to be willing to give away players just for salary relief for us to be able to use the TPE. Without sufficient draft compensation, that's just not gonna happen given how few tams are in salary cap hell.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    Meh..... middle tier draft picks aren't really some massive loss to the future.

    Don't get me wrong, I like RoCo a lot, but this team needs more than role players at this point.
     
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  10. illmatic99

    illmatic99 formerly yuyuza1

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    And you expect to get a star for a 7 mil TPE? Not sure what your gripe is here.
     
  11. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    wait..... where did I say that?
     
  12. illmatic99

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    think olshey is doing what he can with the pieces he has. And he has clearly shown he's building for NOW. your comment about acting like Dame is 25 has no merit.
     
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    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    They refuse to make the big dice roll. They're switching around seats on the Titanic. At the end of the day the flaw is either in Stotts or in the Dame/CJ pairing. That is the common denominators over the past six years.
     
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    I want big moves as much as the next guy, but that doesn't always work out either. Look at how many stars Houston has tried to put around Harden. They have as many conference finals appearances as we do with Dame.

    I'm more focused on not making dumbass mistakes like giving 240 mil to scrubs in free agency or drafting busts in the lottery. This TPE, or draft picks, etc all do move us incrementally forward, however small that might be. And they're not blunders.
     
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    It's both IMO.
     
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    To be fair, they were a Chris Paul hamstring pull away from winning that series and possibly an NBA Championship. That is quite far away from Portland making the WCF Finals....although if you don't win a game, were you even really there?
     
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    And we didnt have nurk when we played GS while being up double digits in every game. Not gonna compare hypotheticals
     
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    No problem. Portland gets swept out of the playoffs a LOT no matter who they play.
     
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    I think now is the time to gamble a little bit. Lillard’s window is closing soon.

    Throw the dice at someone meaningful. Covington is a step in the right direction.

    If I was Neil I’d be on the phone with several teams about star quality players with CJ being the main piece
     
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    Exactly. The options at SG are numerous (Trent, Hood, Covington, Simons). Use CJ to bolster a weaker area.
     

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