OFFICIAL Around The NBA Thread- December 2020

Discussion in 'Portland Trail Blazers' started by Rastapopoulos, Dec 1, 2020.

  1. THE HCP

    THE HCP NorthEastPortland'sFinest

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    What the fuck!!!!
    This dude has played 165 games and averages 9/2/2!!!

     
  2. Hoopguru

    Hoopguru Well-Known Member

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    Sets a bar for Trent. They both are shooters and shooters are a premium in the league.
    If Trent would accept a 4 year/64m that would be terrific. This might get it moving along?
     
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    blazerkor Well-Known Member

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    What specific absolute stupidity do you have an issue with? Do you think that it's smart to invest half of your salary into two redundant players? Do you think that CJ and Gobert are more than just elite specialists? Do you think that CJ was a better extension for us than Gobert is for them?
     
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  4. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    $16 million a year for Kennard? WTF

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  5. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    I think ultimately yes. When the Blazers trade CJ, and they eventually will, the Blazers will get a good package back. Gobert will probably retire a Jazz or be traded in the last year of his contract and won't net as much. He might even walk away in FA and the Jazz will have wasted all that money.

    CJ has kept us in the playoffs as has Gobert kept the Jazz, but CJ can still be moved even this season with good value. No one is going to take on Gobert's contract unless its expiring.
     
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    CJ will probably be traded by then making it a bit easier to pay Nurkic. If he wants $20 + million a year he needs to prove he is worth it first.
     
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    Good point. In that case maybe CJ's will be better and it's also worth pointing out that CJ's is for less money per season, so that does make it a more tradeable asset.
     
  8. Wizard Mentor

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    By signing this huge contract to Gobert, the Jazz have decreased their chance of winning a championship, even though it cements their presence in the playoffs for the next several years.

    If that's what people like, then congrats, they have it.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    I'm very curious what people's perception of CJ's value is. I've gauged how he's valued from fans and people from other teams and the general consensus is that he's a negative value at his contract. I have him somewhere between neutral and slightly negative. If someone offered a late first and expiring/cap space I would trade him just to get off his deal.

    GM's may have a different perception on his value, and it really only takes one team to make a great offer (value is in the eye of the beholder), but I guess it doesn't matter too much since Neil would never consider any deals anyways.
     
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    B-Roy If it takes months

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    Agree to disagree then, since the comparison in your post insinuated that Gobert = CJ.

    Here's a thought, over the last 3-4 seasons, the Blazers and Jazz have been around the same place in terms of league standing. Only the Blazers have had an MVP candidate the entire time. Now let's take your assumption and say CJ and Gobert cancel each other out. The best player on the Blazers is probably going to start declining, while the best player on the Jazz is already getting better.

    Seems to me like even though both teams are in the tier below contending ,the Jazz have a better chance of shooting into the contending tier for a season or two (if everything breaks right) during the duration of Gobert/CJ's huge contracts. That seems like a fine gamble for the Jazz, considering they are the Jazz, and the chance of replacing Gobert with someone better in FA is not going to happen.
     
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    They both can shoot but Trent can guard so this might be low end for Trent agent to look at.
     
  12. SharpesTriumph

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    Just because an owner can afford to lose more than another ownership group doesn't mean they will.

    Sure Paul Allen could spend any amount of luxury tax and it would never impact anything with his day to day living. Thats what he did in early 2000 SPAM days.

    But he said there are better uses of money, cancer research, etc. We've never seen a Blazers team go crazy deep into the luxury tax since 2000 so there hasn't been an advantage there in 20 years.

    Every NBA owner can get massive financing if they really need cash. The teams are all worth well over a billion.

    Thats not to say some NBA ownership groups are more luxury tax hesitant than others. But saying the Jazz are at a financial disadvantage to the Blazers because of ownership isn't evident by actions the team or individuals has taken.

    Who knows, Jody could sell the team in the next year and donate all the profits while the Jazz could be in the repeater luxury tax multiple times in the next decade.
     
  13. Haakzilla

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    ...checkout what the Spurs just paid bench player Derrick White >> four-year, $73 million extension!
     
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    Wow the Magic gave Isaac 4 years $80 mil and Fultz 3 years $50 mil.

    I don't get the Fultz deal, the guy isn't even a good backup, he's a 26% 3pt shooter. A PG needs to have Westbrook athleticism and scoring to be of value as such a bad shooter.

    These teams would be better letting these guys walk just as we would've been with Meyers, Crabbe, Turner. Sometimes I think the former player GM's of decades ago were terrible but you see so many stupid contracts every offseason I guess it hasn't changed. There's just a bunch of teams locked into losing.

    Hell at this rate Trent might get a $100 million deal.
     
  15. Chris Craig

    Chris Craig (Blazersland) I'm Your Huckleberry Staff Member Global Moderator Moderator

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    Why?
     
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    What in the actual fuck. They gave Issac $20 million a year with that fucked up knee? Fulton $50 mill?

    What is going on. Somebody is high on Christmas spirit.
     
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    Gary's price tag this offseason just went through the roof. No way we are going to be able to pay him unless we move CJ
     
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    NBA teams were hurt bad by the pandemic in losing revenue and are overreacting in signing players to these god awful extensions to try and ensure their future investment. But, they are making a big mistake because they are driving up the monetary value of role players who should never get such contracts.
     
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    What a joke, Just a joke! Wonder how much Ant will get?
     
  20. handiman

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    Portland was actually one of the more profitable franchises back then. (#3?) It wasn't till the fan base turned in the Jail Blazer era that the purse strings tightened, as I recall. So, PA wasn't negatively impacted at all by those free-spending ways.
     
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