James Harden has added the Blazers to his list

I understand why someone doesn't love James Harden, because I don't. I don't follow the logic behind your second point. You think a CJ/Collins for Harden is a lateral move talent wise? Achievment wise?

I'm not saying you're this guy, but we've got people who think a guy in a suit is preventing us from winning 10 extra game. Now the thought of trading the 15th best gaurd in the West for the 2018 MVP, 9 time all-NBA, 31 year old shooting guard, people don't want to do it. I don't follow that logic, at all.

Just from a contract standpoint, a CJ for Harden trade is fantastic.

 

He won an MVP with a coach who let him do whatever he wanted, so maybe that's not the worst strategy.

 

This thread is so eye opening as to why some of us are always so disappointed in the franchise. We are over the moon trading Mario for Kanter, but half the people don't want to give up an over-paid SG who everyone complains about for an MVP, 9 time all-NBA player.

 

thinking at least two 1st rounders. Personally I don’t like Harden but if you get the chance to get top 10 player to go with Dame you’ve got to take it even if it means costing you some of your future. None of those guys listed trading are going to win you a championship. If things don’t work you get your draft picks back by trading Harden and if Dame wants out you get picks and players for him too.

 

It’s fascinating because there is some validity to the thought that Portland/Neil/Stotts/Damian are too loyal or too personally connected to guys and won’t make changes or hard decisions. And fans in here complain about it. Then some of those people say no to Harden because they personally just don’t like him or his style. I can’t stand Harden as a Rocket but he’s incredible as a player. Sign me up

 

Problem is CJ's contract is terrible and Trent, Zach are up for an extension. To me those are negatives right now because they will end up paying those 3 guys way more than Harden makes and they already have Wall on the books for 44M next season. That needs at least 3-4 1st round picks to balance.

 

Imagine not wanting one of the 5-10 best players in the entire league hahahahaha fuck man that’s so funny

 

Yeah I don’t give a fuck if he lives in a strip club, stars win titles, they are more important in the NBA than any other sport. It would solve the trapping Dame shit and I’d rather take a chance on Harden than pay CJ 100 mil over the next 3 seasons.

 

If this report is actually true and we are actually on the list, we have to do everything we can to get Harden without involving Dame and Nurk. First, this is the first time in forever a superstar has put us on there list. It means, we have the chance to keep him once his contract is up, but even still, this is big and something we have to try. Second, what we have now isn't working. I know Harden doesn't play a lick of a defense, but either does CJ and obviously Harden is far superior offensively. I know there is something to be said about team chemistry as well as Harden's attitude issues, but we have to swing the fences. As is, we aren't a contender. With Harden, we have the chance. Not saying it is guaranteed, but it gives us a chance unlike no chance with the current squad.

 

He already lives in strip clubs...remind me...how many titles has he got? He's played with great talent his whole career from OKC to Houston....not saying he's not an incredible talent because he is...why do so many players want to get away from his teams? He's been dumped by Durant, Westbrook, CP3, Howard, and a lot of other players that thought he'd get them a ring

 

With Dame as the team captain, how many players has he allowed to come into the locker room and poison things? If Dame is ok with it, I'm going to give him the benefit of the doubt.

Durant , Westbrook, CP3, and Howard have all left talented teams that Harden wasn't on as well. Not saying Harden is going to be a perfect fit, but we're not going to be giving up a 9 time All-NBA player to get him either.

 

James Harden fan or not, The Blazers would be total fools not to entertain such an idea. Harden is arguably a top 5 player. So I agree!

 

Has he really been dumped by those players or did he dump them? Seems to me Hou has chosen Harden over all of those other players. I don’t blame Houston for trying to find the best fit with him to win, it’s a hell of a lot better than sticking with the same tandem year after year expecting a different result.

 

Harden would run the team when Dame was on the bench and Hoodie could fill in at the 2 if he gets his legs back. You still don't have to touch Simons, CJ2 or Nas with this roster. The rotation would likely be Dame, Harden, DJJ, RoCo, Nurk, Melo, Hood, Kanter with Giles getting some minutes most games but not really in the rotation. Simons and Nas would get spot minutes and unless there were real problems Elleby would never see the court.

 

How did he get dumped by Durant? That was the OKC GM moving him because he didn't think he could pay him what he was going to demand.
Westbrook is a mental midget so there is that.
CP3 was traded by the Houston GM to get Westbook.
Howard has played on seemingly almost half of the teams in the league.

Perhaps at least even a little research would help.

 

Im amazed at how many people are against this. Dame has only so many years left. We have to try and do something to help him get a chip. Harden is that. Say what you will about Harden many things can be debated. What can't be debated is he is a superstar and top 5 player in the NBA. What have we learned about recent Champions (outside of the the Raptors)? Superstars teamming up win championships. Nothing is guaranteed, obviously it is a risk and maybe it isn't even possible we can get Harden, but we have to try. Everyone here should know Dame/CJ will not ever win a title and now this could potentially be a realistic shot at trading CJ for a major upgrade.

 

He hasn't commanded loyalty from teammates is my entire point....or they'd do what it takes to stay teammates..coaches either..I just threw out names he should have on paper won titles with and didn't..but you can break that down and downplay it..I don't think KD wants to play with him on the Nets either but again...that's my opinion D'Antoni seems to have preferred an assistant job with Nash over head coaching in Houston as well..how many coaches would leave a superstar player for a role assistant job elsewhere.

 

The one thing I think people should come to terms with is that it will likely take CJ and Nurk to get this thing done. That's really the only way I see Houston doing this deal. I actually think we'd have to do this too. We get Harden and see how him and Dame coexist and if they can't we sell Harden for more than we could probably get for those two players and whatever picks they would also want.

 

I'm not convinced Harden means championship...he can go get the scoring title every year though

 

Probably not playing with Dame but they could make it work; both have off ball skills and can set the other one up. They'd hopefully be a lot of fun to watch and even if it doesn't win us a chip right away it gets us a helluva lot closer.