I had observed both of your points. I believe the justification for protesting is a privilege both groups have but the radicals attached to the movements are like leeches on flesh, which, in turn, destroyed the intentions of the non-violent participants. In a scale of disgrace; the Trump, Trump Jr., Giuliani, Hawley and Mo Brooks direct encouragements prior to and on January 6th guided Insurrection Invasion against the very heart of the our Constitution and our Country. Words and phrases like "fight", take back your country, trial by combat are valid litigating points. Pelosi will gather more evidence for the impeachment presentation to the Senate.
Intent with destructive action matters. You could stand on a corner and say fuck you to somebody but if you break down doors and invade their house with deliberate intention to harm those within or guarding the premises, the action illustrates their harmful intentions.
Wasn't my remark this morning which I dearly wish to drop, in the same thread? Oops, I see you you meant it another way as this thread is a different thread. I haven't had either my coffee nor my breakfast yet this morning. I see my wife just got up so expect the drink and breakfast part will soon change. I wish no feud with you nor anyone else, so I'm going to back off.
What's better than blueberry pancakes? Perhaps Swedish pancakes or maybe apple pancakes. I always eat the same breakfast. If it's a dialysis day first it's a little oatmeal with a couple slices of canned peaches, hash browns with some jalapeno mixed in, bacon, sausage or ham but usually bacon and one egg over very easy. I use to drink either orange juice or grapefruit juice but my nutritionist said these are no nos for dialysis patients so now it's Concord grape juice or apple juice, yuk, but what can I do? I need all this in order to survive dialysis. Non dialysis days I just have the oatmeal and wait for lunch. Confession, I seldom drink coffee. That remark was just to warm up the conversation by feigning a little grogginess.
But let's make this conversation about me and how much I love to continue whining about how much I'm mistreated. And I'll do it day after day after day after day after day after day.
The majority of people are one dimensional thinkers and few see the overall picture. Rather, they would place a label on a person instead of respecting their position. I found that out working as an independent home inspector and in municipal government for years.
Firstly, I'd like to again express my surprise that anyone is equating the protest of this summer with January 6th. They are the proverbial apples and oranges and if you can't see the difference, it seems you are either 1. lying, because it's clearly laughable to compare the two or 2. onboard on some level with what happened. Because these two are not the same. That was a pretty no-wiggle-room statement^^^^ so maybe there's a different way of looking at it. This summer was about unity, you'd find people from most every walk of life there, joining arms and singing and things like that. All surrounding the notion that people should be treated as equals and things such as ending excessive police violence against minorities and the system is rigged and so forth. Debatable at times but not crazy notions. On the first few nights, there was smashing and looting. And that is the sticking point in this conversation, for some reason.... The smashing and looting: mostly kids, anyone has to admit. I think that's an important distinction. Teenagers are impulse machines. Also there was a pandemic going on and everyone had been quarantined and the tension was building and POP. The continual onslaught on the federal buildings and protesting outside officials homes and so forth were more akin with January 6th, but the basis for the rage was and is the failure of what America says it offers: freedom and equality. It's a good thing to fight for... Now, January 6th. So many old, grownass people, and as we've discovered, some professionals and politicians and cops and so forth--people that *should* know better--mixed in with the white supremacists and proud boys and Qanon followers and other super losers. Now what were they protesting? A lie. This incredibly psychotic invasion on the Capitol building was because people believe in conspiracy theories, or they just love their leader so much they were willing to forgo the rules of our nation and its elections. And finally, I'll tell you who doesn't think they are the same? The prosecutors putting together the thousands of charges they are about to drop on these idiots. Congress also doesn't quite see the similarity, nor (hopefully) does the Senate (see the second impeachment of Trump). The majority of American don't make the same mistake folks in here are making, and nor does THE ENTIRE WORLD. This is less a viable discussion topic and more yet another opportunity to smash our collective heads against the wall in disbelief. (Sorry for the novel...)
It is annoying as hell. Can't talk about anything in here without you making the conversation about you and your grievances. You don't make this place better.
Hi. I’m Calvin Natt and I would like to unequivocally and very very clearly state that I 100% do not respect any position that stands with Trumps side. Thanks for having me.
1) Everyone here thinks this summers destruction was bad and terrible and perpetrators should be hung by their balls. For the 100th time. 2) the *reason* behind the summer chaos and last weekend are the difference. One is totally legitimate and makes complete sense (BLM, police brutality, please stop killing black people) and the other was driven by QAnon and a twice impeached, lunatic, idiotic President so we can compare the two I guess if you’d like to but this is what most of us think so where do we go from here? What else would you like to debate.
https://www.the-sun.com/news/215611...edium=browser_notifications&utm_source=pushly 'WHERE WAS NANCY?' Graham blames Pelosi for Capitol riot because speaker ‘didn’t provide enough security’ & vows to ‘get to bottom of it’
that's code for "Donald threatened to give my deepst darkest secret away! Lord have mercy, I don't know what I would do if that secret came out!"
I just think they are separate conversations, as well as separate I'm having trouble writing a response to your questions, I'll admit. But let me try... Compare them how? They are pretty dissimilar. The intent of one was unity and justice and to end violence and the other was quite literally the opposite. During the first there was violence and destruction as protesters faced the exact thing they were protesting, ie excessive police violence (now, of course, I'm simplifying for brevity)... So, sure, compare them, but I think it confuses people, because January 6th was in response to what and for what? And it went MUCH further. And it just reinforced everything the left thought of the right.......and so it's hard to see why we need to compare the two. I feel like wanting to invites suspicion is all. Someone said this earlier, but intent is very important here. And in two hundred years, I'm guessing, the infamous January 6th insurrection will be noted in the history books, while the summer protests probably won't even make the cut...
Graham is a piece of shit. DONE listening to that guy go back and forth daily. Ps. Sorry for earlier shenanigans. Delete posts if you want. I have since employed the ignore button, and my life is better.