Notice It's Your Move Olshey! Your Job "Should" Be on The LINE!

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  1. wizenheimer

    wizenheimer Well-Known Member

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    if that's what it takes to get rid of Olshey, I'd be on board with her selling
     
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    I think we need some of our cap posters who are better at this than i am to tell us exactly what options the Blazers truly have?
    @hoopsjock
    @BonesJones
    @blazerkor
    @Chris Craig
    What real options does this team have?
     
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    Not sure the team would fetch a great price the way things are now pandemic wise?
    What is the team worth before and after Covid?
     
  4. Natebishop3

    Natebishop3 Don't tread on me!

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    I just don't know. The team feels like it's stuck in a rut. Like there's no real direction. We're just pissing away Dame's prime with big smiles on our faces. Neil is moving around the deck chairs on the Titanic. Nobody wants to address the elephant in the room because they don't want to rock the boat.
     
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  5. wizenheimer

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    whatever the position of the payroll and tax line, Blazers always have the options of trades and two-way contracts

    the question is if they can sign an unsigned veteran without going into the tax. I'm thinking they can't (Nurk's incentives situation) but I could be wrong about that
     
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    According to Spotrac we have $131,999,148 in salary right now, the luxury tax threshold is $132,627,000, that leaves us $627,852 left to spend before the luxury tax kicks in. According to Bobby Marks, Nurk is going to lose $1,250,000 in bonus money for missing too many games.

    That means that theoretically if both sources are correct we have $1,877,852 before we hit the luxury tax which we know we aren't going over this season, so we don't hit the repeater tax.

    According to hoopsrumors a player with 4 years of NBA experience has a vet min of $1,737,145, while a player with 5 years of experience has a vet min of $1,882,867 which is unfortunately just over what we are reported to have in cap space. The options are very limited when looking at free agents on the market with under 4 years of experience.

    The kind of guys we're looking at aren't likely better than Ant. Probably the best guy who is a free agent is Zhaire Smith who I don't think is better than Ant. We can look at the guys that make less than that in the league. I think the best option outside of the getting someone like Gary Payton II on a two way is to try and trade for someone making under $1,882867. The best option in the league is Shake Milton. I don't know how much that would cost us but if we could get him for any number of second rounders that would be ideal.

    So Shake Milton for second rounders or if we could get him for Ant that would be great too. That being said Milton is getting over 20 minutes per game this season so unless they really like Ant and like three second rounders, that probably isn't going to happen.

    Edit: I mean maybe Milton is worth guaranteeing the pick with Houston and giving up a future first that might actually land him.

    There is also Kendrick Nunn but again, I don't know if he's that much better than Ant.
     
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  7. Chris Craig

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    Trades, two way spot (2 when the NBA pushes it to 18 roster spots/an extra 2 way). Blazers can't even afford a vet min without going over the tax.

    Probably can't get an injured player acception either because Nurkic and CJ aren't out the whe season. Maybe for Collins.
     
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    The exception doesn't do anything to reduce the taxable salary. If Portland is trying to stay out - this doesn't help.
     
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    3 of our core starters are possibly out for either the whole season or a lot of it. I see this as an opportunity to get bench players going ...Rodney is a prime example of that.....Giles Nas, Ant, Trent need to show they can win games. Not interested in tanking or selling the team....selling the team is a horrible idea....trading Dame is a horrible idea and banking on winning it all this year is just not in the cards....trade deadline is in March...see where we are on March 24th we may have swapped some pieces. This short season is less important to me for championship aspirations...I want that to happen when the Moda Center is rockin and people can fill the streets without getting sick in celebration.
     
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    I'll keep saying this till somebody proves otherwise, but I think Marks was wrong
     
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    boo.....if that means moving the team at least....count me out
     
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    lol....sure, let's imagine the absolute worst possible outcome and settle for status quo because of it.

    Did Paul Allen move the team when he bought it?
     
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    I stand by my point.....every rumor about buying the Blazers I've read since Paul passed has them moving to Seattle or Vegas.....that's what I think selling the team means today....not when Paul bought it but honestly...I don't believe Paul wanted Jodi to sell the team at all...nor do I think the franchise will blow it up like this thread and others suggest. I also don't think things are so dramatically dire in Blazerland......we'll be fine this season. It's just next man up time
     
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    there has not been a single "rumor" about the Blazers being sold. All there has been is some speculation from people who know nothing about it

    there may be just as much chance that Jody Allen moves the Blazers to Seattle as a new owner moving them to Vegas
     
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    What bullets does he have in the chamber to make a big move? CJ was the biggest trade piece that you could move with some stuff added to make a splash, obviously that is gone for the time being along with a pair of nice pieces in Nurk/Zach that could have been added. You can't trade away a 1st round pick until the 2nd one to Houston is conveyed, so there goes that option unless you're talking picks WAY down the line. Simons/Trent haven't shown any real value at this point and the team is right up against the luxury tax threshold. There really is no where for Olshey to go at this point, that's why people were begging for a change up this offseason, instead it was more of the same 'retooling'.
     
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    There have been lots of rumors about the Blazers being sold to a larger market .....you may not have paid attention but your statement is wrong...nobody is saying a deal was on the table....that's why they're called rumors...but no rumors had the Blazers staying in Portland after being sold from my reading over the last couple years.....maybe people writing about basketball don't know anything about basketball....you could be correct. This place sure has some wild speculations over the years.....I want the Blazers in Portland for the rest of my life...we have solid ownership right now...to me this whole thread is a meltdown over Olshey and the job he's done....I don't think he caused one injury but I could also be wrong about that.
     
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    Teams are selling for billions of dollars for a reason ... this team would fetch a big number for Jody if/when she decides to sell. Have to remember that one of the rarest commodities for these wealthy people is the clout that comes with owning a professional sports team, especially in one of the big three leagues.
     
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    start melo at SG obviously.
     
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    I thought Hood looked really good playing next to Dame....he also has played alot with Enes....Trent can shoot with a green light off the bench...Melo be Melo....plug and play when you need a bucket
     
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    Neil is scraping as we speak :wook:
     
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