Politics The Kamala Harris Thread

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  1. HailBlazers

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    The Walton's and Koch's are horrible people. But to claim one side is good the other evil is pure fantasy.

     
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    Elon Musk and Zhong Shanshan really did well in the Covid19 lottery.
     
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    FWIW

     
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    We are told, by someone who probably does not know most of us, that anyone who participates in politics is illogical and a blind brand loyalist.

    Is it brand loyalty or experience?

    Trivial example, I know from experience that New Balance and Reebok sneakers generally fit me and that Adidas and Nike never do. So when I go to buy sneakers I try on New Balance and Reebok. Not because their materials are better or they treat workforce better, probably they don't, not because of blind brand loyalty but due to experience that they are more likely to fit.

    If I read a book I like, I might seek other books by that author, which I would not do if book was lousy. Pre Covid I returned to restaurants with good food and service, not those with bad.

    Probably no one would disagree with any of this. So why is public life different?

    Fact, the US has one of the worst Corona virus responses in the world. Does anyone aside from trueborn Trumpers think it might have made a difference having a president who listened to scientists instead of the My Pillow guy and Fox commentators? Who did not make refusing to wear masks and socially distance a loyalty test? Who did not so decimate the CDC that they literally have no idea how much vaccine is available, let alone a plan for national distribution?

    Of the 20-odd (and some were odd) Democratic presidential candidates, Biden was pretty low on my preference. My top three choices were Warren, Castro, Harris. Biden is a flawed human being. So is Kamala Harris, Elizabeth Warren, Barack Obama, Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez. It's the human condition. But I can't draw an equal sign between a flawed human being with whom I have differences, sometimes serious ones, and an utterly corrupt, incompetent, pathological liar who has never cared for anything but his ego and his wealth, uses the presidency to enrich himself, and sends a mob of white supremacists to storm the Capitol.

    It strikes me as an excuse to do exactly nothing, just sit back and say it makes no difference, they are all corrupt so go get stoned or something.

    And also a case of privilege.

    Some people might have the privilege of figuring it doesn't matter if a president of the United States calls Nazis very fine people and his supporters wear Camp Auschwitz sweatshirts. I don't have that luxury. Some people might have the privilege of figuring there is no difference between a president issuing an executive order allowing all function of Health and Human Services to discriminate based on sexual orientation and gender identity and a president issuing an executive order prohibiting discrimination against LGBTQ people. I don't have that luxury. As an older white woman I suppose I have the luxury of saying it doesn't affect me whether or not a president thinks Black lives matter, but I happen to believe Black lives do matter.

    The graphic showing where people like Vice President Harris would have been at various points in this country's history does a great job of making the point. Those things did not change because someone sat back and said they are all corrupt, it doesn't matter if Lincoln or Douglas gets elected, ladies, go back to the kitchen, don't fight for suffrage because all politicians are lousy. They changed because people fought like holy fucking hell to change them.

    The way we hold their feet to the fire, metaphorically of course, is by staying active and engaged. Not by saying I've got mine, so screw politics, they are all corrupt. I don't "got mine". And a lot of others "got" less.
     
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    An excuse for one's own conduct, but also an attempt to convince others that they should do the same.

    Alternatively, it's often a way to justify voting for the greater of two evils.

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    what an excellent "mike drop" post! respect!
     
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    Kamala Has Historically Low Support In Newest Data.



    I don't see democrats ever being able to run her for president with this low of support.
     
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    Kamala Least Popular VP In Modern Times.

     
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    Yeah I would never make that claim.
     
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    No, Kamala Harris Is Not Headed To The Supreme Court.

     

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