Politics January 6th

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  1. Chris Craig

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    Wow, so basically Arizona will always go red now. I am sure other states with republican controlled legislatures will be right behind this doing the same thing. Democracy is fucked.

    If Democrats did this there would be such a shitstorm
     
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    Perhaps, the Republican party will be land slided and normality will continue.
     
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    Biden promised $2,000 checks immediately. Here it is the 30th of January, 10 days after Biden took office with Americans still in desperate need of that money, and your angle is pork?!?
     
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    That is correct. Biden can't 'immediately' send out checks, it requires congress to act first.

    Or perhaps Rand Paul is misrepresenting a lot of that.

    He's such a honest guy, he wouldn't do that, would he?

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    The 30th of January is 10 days after the 20th of January.

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  6. wizenheimer

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    IIRC, it was going to be $1400 added to the $600 stimulus earlier
     
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    It's still Covid time, so each day seems 2.4 times as long.
     
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  10. Road Ratt

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    Biden promised $2,000 checks. Anything else is just an excuse. Biden said: $2,000 checks, not $1,400+ checks.

    Edit: It seems like another odd angle to take. America is in the middle of it's worse crisis since the great depression, with millions of Americans desperate for help, and Biden promised this money immediately and has yet to get around to helping those same Americans who helped him win Georgia. Not to mention, those people who helped him win the presidency.
     
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    It's only odd to people who don't know how the US system works. Biden can't appropriate money to send to people as a unilateral act, Congress has to pass the legislation for him to sign. If he refuses to sign such legislation, then it's a Biden issue.
     
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    The Rand Festuvis report was for the 2020 budget. You should research it and not presume he misrepresented these facts. . As we all know, pork is thrown into a proposed budget. Rand is unique as he had outlined waste that this Government is known for. To view it as a line item sets your perspectives into a new level. Stay happy, my pirate friend.
     
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    Why not sell his Corvette and give everyone that money?
     
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    You are missing the point, my friend. It requires Congress to pass a bill. In this case, a Democratically controlled Congress will pass it and line items could be absurd. I'm giving the S2 members a perspective that this bill will be porked and will make forensic accountants' cringe. The $2K checks may be there, along with Pork based on what Congress decides or has decided. .
     
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    I saw that last night, it was really good.

    I was hoping they would put it up on youtube so I can show @Road Ratt.
     
  17. Road Ratt

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    Biden has republicans on record stating that they would vote for a stand alone bill for $2,000 checks to Americans. 80% of Americans are in favor of $2,000 checks. Biden has the leverage to pass the bill quickly. He took an alternative route that will take longer while Americans suffer amid a pandemic. Americans should have been Biden's first priority. Americans came in 2nd behind impeaching Trump it seems.

    Democrats could use reconciliation to pass the bill even without republican support. You only need a 51-50 majority that way, which democrats now have with Kamala's tie breaking vote. Yet Biden chose a different, lengthier, path while Americans are in desperate need of money.



    I am asking please here. Everyone, stop telling me that I don't know shit. Show me that I don't know shit. :tongue:
     
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    I am a calm guy. I never state you don't know "shit". I respect yours and other's opinions. I found out interpretation is a wide range matter. Insults are not my style. I only clarify my point of view when needed. Peace to ya Bro....
     
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    From what I've read, reconciliation has to be tied to a federal budget proposal, which is not a quick process.
     
  20. Road Ratt

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    The point is, Biden actually has the leverage right now, with several republicans on board for a stand alone bill for $2,000 checks. Yet he chose to butt heads with republicans on a 1.9 trillion dollar package rather than get money to Americans who are in desperate need of it now. Biden could be forcing republicans to take a stance on a highly popular bill, 80% public support, last I saw. If republicans stand in it's way, America will make them pay for it. So the stance that democrats can't get it done now, isn't an exceptionally strong one as I see it. Democrats may very well pay for dragging the process out longer. We will see.

    Edit: I will post a video that shows the stats I am using. If I can find it. Didn't sleep well last night. I probably shouldn't even be trying to chat with humans today, lol.

    Here is Biden on record saying $2,000 checks.



    I am sorry, I am not upset. I just find it odd that people jump into defense of their candidate mode with opinions, rather than bringing anything real. People are dying and everyone seems more concerned about what I see as semantics, is all. Take it easy. :lollipop:

    Edit: I see things so differently from other people. I sometimes wish we could all plug ourselves into each others heads, it would be so much easier for everyone to understand each other that way. One downside though would be everyone finding out about, you know, that... one time! :bgrin:
     
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