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Funny enough, our government spends enough per capita on healthcare to fully fund a Canadian style universal healthcare system. So if we adopted that, every employee with a family could see an immediate $500 per month (minimum) raise without costing their employer anything. And every American would be covered.

 

How many peolple here have no life threatening problems you would have taken care of if it didn't cost anything and how much of that do you think is considered in figuring the cost of universal health care?

again. Im not saying it can happen. Im saying the reports have glaring holes that lead to my concerns of the validity of the numbers.

 

I don't know about that specific study, but I imagine more frequent visits because they are free would ultimately save money because it avoids the bigger issues that those visits sometimes help to fix. Similar to Sly's car analogy. If you get regular maintenance on your car and treat it well, you have better chances of avoiding bigger issues. Same with the body. If we are in general going in to take care of all the little things, it reduces bigger issues that arise from those small things that cost far more.

 

Only if it is medically necessary. If it is cosmetic nothing changes.

 

possibly. But that would only work with newborns. How do we deal with all the run down cars sitting in the lots currently?

 

If it's not medically necessary it wouldn't be covered. This is all calculated in. It's a 2oo page study. Your questions have been answered.

 

When I was in the corporate world, we could set aside x amount of pre-taxed dollars for various health costs. I really liked that approach.

 

We still save money because we save so much on administration and prescriptions.

 

That is less efficient, hence more expensive.

 

Perhaps, but it could absolutely be dove-tailed in with other methods short of a one-size-fits-all approach.

 

That's not entirely true. If I buy a used car, maybe the previous owner didn't take care of it, but that doesn't mean I shouldn't either. It still has a better chance if I regularly do the maintenance it needs.
I was shit at taking care of my teeth when I was a teen/early adult. As a result, I have like 4 crowns on my back teeth, and have had numerous fillings, etc. But it wasn't too late to change my habits. Just because I didn't start from a child, I began a better teeth brushing/flossing/gum care routine and have not had a cavity in probably 10 years. By regularly attending my cleanings and following a healthy routine, I saved my self thousands of dollars.

I've had medical issues that I've put off in the past that have cost me more simply by not fixing something when it was initially wrong. And by not checking to see if things were wrong earlier on.

 

If its not medically necessary to why would i want a change. My coverage is almost free for necessary procedures, currently.

oh and i apologize for not being able to read a 200 page report in 10 minutes.

 

not following you. How so?

 

most will need an initial overhaul to get back to par, would they not?

 

depends on how much harder my parents worked to provide their offspring with this benefit vs others whos parents may not have?

Attaining wealth was originally to set your family up. Children, grandchildren. How is this now a bad thing?

 

I don't think a huge medical overhaul. But, I think of just people going in for a checkup they might not otherwise go in for and being told hey, you have high blood pressure, lets'work to fix that. And the checkup, finding the high blood pressure, and making changes can go a long ways towards not having that person have the medical bills in a few months from a heart attack.

 

Fair enough. What about people like me that just refuse to go unless im about to die? Lol.