Rumor What's going on in Portland?

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  1. RR7

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    Your near death experience when it comes doesn't completely bankrupt you?
     
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    Question for the group:

    What should your doctor receive additional financial bonuses for?

    1. Not referring patients for additional tests or to see specialists? (Yes, large insurance companies currently give doctors bonuses for this.)

    2. If the patients in his practice as a group sees measurable reductions things like obesity? cholesterol? diabetes? heart disease?

    We can add capitalistic incentives to socialized medicine that would reduce healthcare costs and improve health.
     
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    nah i just meant for those who dont go to the dentist or have that hairline fracture put in a cast or pinned up or whatever?

    i broke my hand. Never saw a doctor.

    im being a bit facetious now though. ;)
     
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    The bad thing is children who didn't inherit generational wealth not having the same opportunity to maximize their ability. That's why we need to create a decent floor for anyone, even those born to poor parents.
     
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    incentive based health care? Hmmm. There is a thought.
     
  6. Orion Bailey

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    cant any child enroll into the public school system that most other children go to?

    We already have welfare that is regularly abused.
     
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    Yes, incentive based health care. That was also part of my dental insurance example.

    Incentivizing both patient and provider should be a part of any healthcare system.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    Public school system quality varies wildly from community to community and those in bad neighborhoods often have the double-whammy of not only being poorly-funded, but the kids in those neighborhoods having to worry about their safety (not to mention hunger, which affects academic achievement).

    So no, opportunity, even in terms of public education, is nowhere near equal. We need to invest a lot more tax-payer money into improving neighborhoods and the schools in those neighborhoods, as well as making sure everyone has proper housing, food and health care.
     
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    On that note, here's yet another idea.

     
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    ill have to research this but i question it. I could have sworn a decade or so ago a report came out that Washington dc spends more per child on their educational system than any other district but still have some of the lowest national scores.
    I dont think the answer is, throw more money at it and it will be fine.
     
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    Hello darkness, my old friend
    The answer is never throwing money at a single thing, complicated social issues require holistic solutions. That's why I didn't just say pump money into schools--we also have to invest in improving neighborhoods, we also have to invest in people having their basic needs (food, housing, clothes, etc) met. Everything has to be improved together--trying to fix one thing in isolation rarely works.
     
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    https://www.americanprogress.org/is...strative-costs-burden-u-s-health-care-system/

    Not to mention the added costs each office has to incur to do business with the hundreds of healthcare providers.
     
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    Your questions are answered there. You expect me to search through 200 pages to find the answer for you? And your coverage is not free. That's part of your compensation. You are paying for it. Just like you would be under single payer. Extept you'd be paying less via single payer.
     
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    so what would you say or do for those who get welfare checks to put clothes on thier children's backs but dont do that and this let the child suffer?

    See im of the opinion that parental guidance has diminished to the point we need to hold parents accountable for their childrens suffering.

    Id be open to discussing something that assesses parental abilities and care and somehow determining who is fit and isnt fit to beca parent.
    If we aRe going to have other people pay parents more to take care of their children, i would like assurance the money is spent judiciously.


    Of the things you mentioned needing improvement( i dont disagree( how would you go about doing so without increased spending?
     
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    you are the one asserting the answers are there. Where? Lol.

    okay if toy calculate it on top of my salary i suppose, but i wasnt provided the option, 90k a year with coverage or 100k a year without.
    I was offered a salary. I accepted it. It came with coverage.
     
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    And crazy glue! Shit closes up any cut. Lol.
     
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    I have to say. Ive have a very pleasant time the last 24 hours here. Good conversations with good people not taking difference of opinions personally.
    Thanks!
     
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    Don't be stupid.











    ;)
     
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    What you do behind closed doors is your own damn business, FAMS!
     
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    Y'all sound like a bunch of NE Portlanders.
     
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