I don't agree. Nobody's going to jump from "no UBI" to "UBI for life" without at least some evidence that it helps people more than just giving them a little more spending money. The fact that people put a shorter term version towards productive uses, like paying down debt and getting into better employment situations, is good evidence that UBI is a program worth exploring more and testing more.
You probably shouldn't use "skim at work" while talking about where they can get money from... just a suggestion.
For real. That 1,400 coming my way is gonna be used on credit cards and some loan payments. It sucks, but in the end it'll allow for more spending money with the money I work for, so it works out.
The last 1200 my wife and I received went to fix a broken water pipe under my cabin....bill.....$1173. We got to go crazy shopping with the 27 bucks left over! I'm sure the plumber didn't qualify for a stimulus check so he just got ours. Good times!
Looking ahead, it seems fairly obvious that a UBI program is going to be necessary, and not because the population is going to become lazy. The rise of artificial intelligence is leading to more and more automation. For now, specific AI systems are only phasing out some jobs and are tools to assist humans in other jobs. But as the technology improves, automation is going to claim more and more jobs. And unlike in past epochs, it's not necessarily going to lead to new industries that create as many or more jobs. Automation is going to eliminate vastly more jobs than it's going to create--so what happens then? Most people just starve to death? For now, UBI is a form of welfare for those who haven't had as much opportunity or are struggling for other reasons, and a way to potentially help propel them to becoming more successful within the economy. Going forward, it'll be a necessary program to keep people afloat when there may not be as many jobs as people.
This is how I feel about it....we're already seeing office workers dumping the office and working remotely from home now...I think humanity is at a point where greed has to stop and balance has to be maintained....people will probably have credits for staples and basics and luxury items will become super expensive.
100% agree in regards to automation. As more and more jobs are permanently eliminated from the workforce, where do people turn for work? Not to say it's as simple as give them UBI and let them be lazy. It's more allow them to live. To survive. I don't agree that UBI will turn everyone lazy. There's plenty of jobs currently that pay a mediocre wage that people could do to half ass it. But a lot of people are motivated by money, so they hunt out higher paying jobs than those. There's a lot of people are motivated by a desire to help others. I don't think they're all just going to drop out of the workforce. There's plenty that have a desire to help others, but a lot of those helping others jobs don't pay anything worthwhile, so they DON'T follow a passion, because of the need for $$ I also thing there's a bigger issue at play in the entire discussion, where we have a society built around a lot of shitty, low paying jobs that are essential to keeping things operating the way it currently does. People applaud and support the rich for coming up with ways to keep themselves rich, while eliminating jobs, because they innovated or whatever, but then disregard the individuals left out in the cold because of that innovation. Boot strap it, I guess? A UBI protects those discarded workers, and it probably also puts fear into a lot of the uber rich who rely on the dirt cheap labor of the country to stay uber rich.
I've crawled under my house with all the cobwebs and spiders. I've fixed broken pipes. I've run speaker wire, tv coax, and 120V power cables. I really disliked doing all of it but it had to be done and I didn't have money at the time.
Fake study by the Fake News rag The Atlantic. Fake results. No actual tracking of where the money went (drugs, booze, xboxes...) lack of actual poverty-stricken participants, lack of political diversity among participants, numerous unsupportable conclusions, ignoring outside real-world factors... Stockton has a 20% poverty rate BECAUSE of 100+ years of political absurdities like this.
Damn, you figured it out. It was, in fact, a Deep State propaganda "study," intended to create comfort with putting everyone on the federal government teat, forever destroying personal independence.
It doesn't matter how they spent it. That's the point. It helped them improve their lives and get full time jobs, without the need for government bureaucracy. As such, this was not a political absurdity. It was very successful. Every study on UBI has shown positive results when compared to any other kind of welfare. I do support a negative tax credit more though,it would essentially be UBI for most people.
Nobody cares what you spend your inflated profits from debt pedaling on....even if you take it to Costa Rica on vacation. Judging people you don't know is pretty easy to do....see how that works? Your inflation of the cost of housing has directly caused Oregonian homelessness! Drunks don't buy x boxes...they steal them to trade for booze and drugs, duh. Give it a break.....and you owe me and my wife an apology for the coming to america for free welfare post you made years ago and saying we're the problem with America......diversify that! You should be more careful about your "fake character" here...the govt is reading!
Most people don't do an essential service. There are plenty of people and machines to handle essential services.
